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Old 05-29-2007, 19:57 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I always thought that in a democracy everyone is entitled to an opinion, however odious to some it may be.

“I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. ” - Voltaire
I agree with you. However there are limits to free speech. Saying you don't agree with this war, or any other war, is fine. Saying the armed forces of your country are terrorists following the biggest terrorist, who is your president, is quite another. Especially if she can't provide solid and concrete proof to back up her allegation.
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Old 05-29-2007, 20:05 PM   #17 (permalink)
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My original comment about this worthless whore still stands.

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Amen to that. Maybe now she can contribute somehow to society instead of complaining and refusing to move on with her life, although I wouldn't count on it.
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Old 05-29-2007, 21:23 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I agree with you. However there are limits to free speech. Saying you don't agree with this war, or any other war, is fine. Saying the armed forces of your country are terrorists following the biggest terrorist, who is your president, is quite another. Especially if she can't provide solid and concrete proof to back up her allegation.
First of all,as a parent I feel for her regarding the loss of her son.Secondly,the venom she spewed forth on our servicemen and women sickened me.However,the claims of the KKK and all the other hate groups within the U.S. also sicken me.Their claims have the same amount of basis in fact as hers do.Yet as hers is,their constitutional right to free speech is protected by law.In her case,the Democrats knew a good thing when they saw it and gave her a worldwide audience to pander to.They used her,abused her and threw her away when she was of no use to them anymore.Yes,I hated and despised what she said and I called her much worse than Dale has,but unless she was advocating an armed overthrow of the government she had a right to say it.Abridge her right to free speech and you have begun the process of destroying it altogether.....Go ahead gentlemen,fire away,I have a thick skin as well as a thick head.
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Old 05-29-2007, 22:51 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Very well argued. I concede the point.

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Old 05-29-2007, 23:46 PM   #20 (permalink)
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worthless whore?? is she??? almost entire world knows her name, her reasons to do what she did, and a lot can recognize her face. she has balls,

did you accomplish anything close to what she did? would you have balls to even start anything like that?? open faced in front of the whole world, not behind screen name on the net? . pick your wording wise next time.
Bush has done alot too, he's also well know round the world and has stood behind his principles. Cindy's called him the #1 terrorist and that seems ok to you. As such your horror in regaurds to Dalem's opinion is meaningless.
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Old 05-29-2007, 23:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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How surprising? A liberal defeaticrat quits her fight. This following Rosie quiting The View because she couldn't handle a real debate with facts rather than shouting and emotions. If only islamic terrorists were this easy...
"Liberal defeaticrat quitting."

Is that like "The sun rises in the East and sets in the West"?

Or "Death and Taxes"?

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Uh, DUH!

I could have told her YEARS AGO that was going to happen and saved her goodness-knows how much trouble and pain.
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:00 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Freedom of speech means that she is entitled to her opinion and is able to express it. Freedom of speech also means that those who think that she and her opinions are just so much fetid dingo droppings or those who consider her to be a saint are entitled to, and to express, their opinions.

My opinion? She is somewhat unhinged. She has carried on for some time now as if the US military-industrial complex had ripped her son from her womb and mutated him into a killbot ( got that term from the Simpsons - pretty sophisticated huh! ).

Her son volunteered to serve. After a tour of combat he volunteered to go back again. Whether or not the rest of the family AGREED with the decision, it seems that they respected his right to make those decisions. She just couldn't do that. She just could not accept that her son had made the decisions that he made and instead blamed the Govt etc.

Grieving for lost loved ones is proper and healthy. She became hysterical and was used shamelessly by the left.

Just my two cents ( sorry, five cents, we don't have 1 or 2 cent pieces here anymore! ) worth. Fire away.

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Old 05-30-2007, 05:44 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I agree. She is more to be pitied than reviled.
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:59 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Cindy's called him the #1 terrorist and that seems ok to you. .
you assume that, if i tought bush was one, i'd say it openly, and loud, don,t twist my post to your liking, yes i strongly disagree with dale on this subject, but it has nothing to do with bush, i voted for him twice, you have no idea what is ok by me, read my or anyone elses posts like they are writhen, don,t assume between the lines,
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So where's the outrage there then? It seems the word "terrorist" is meaningless now.....
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One doesn't have to be a Bush hater to pity a woman, who is full of grief and with confused thoughts.

And feel sorry for her in all ways.
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Old 05-31-2007, 03:49 AM   #27 (permalink)
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My opinion of her moved up a notch after I read this statement:

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when I started to hold the Democratic Party to the same standards that I held the Republican Party, support for my cause started to erode and the 'left' started labeling me with the same slurs that the right used
That shows she's genuinely anti-war, as opposed to a Bush-hater.

I don't ask much from people. I just want them to be fair and not hypocrites.

However it took her a while to see the Democratic party as what they are. Her hatred for Bush blinded her for a long time.
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:07 AM   #28 (permalink)
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My opinion of her moved up a notch after I read this statement:
That shows she's genuinely anti-war, as opposed to a Bush-hater.
I don't ask much from people. I just want them to be fair and not hypocrites.
However it took her a while to see the Democratic party as what they are. Her hatred for Bush blinded her for a long time.
You give her more credit then I would. I believe that someone who could throw away their whole family and show such utter disrespect for the true memoir of their son as she did must have had a very powerful motive. If her motive was peace why has she not protested against other wars that the USA was not involved in. The only protests I'm aware of that she ever joined were those that were aimed at the USA or Bush. I do not believe she was anti war I suspect she was just anti USA and of course anti Bush.
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Old 05-31-2007, 15:14 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Sheehan figured it out...neither the Democrats or Republicans give a poop about her cause. Her lesson...never say anything detrimental about Hillary Clinton. You'll lose your place with the media and lose the support of the party you thought had your back. She wants to go home to her family. Did she forget that they disowned her!
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One doesn't have to be a Bush hater to pity a woman, who is full of grief and with confused thoughts.

And feel sorry for her in all ways.
I agree.
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