Ray

It is heartening to note that Bush and the Democrats are putting their shoulder together through some backdoor diplomacy to solve the problems that plague the world.

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"Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

HAKUNA MATATA

dalem

No, I mean your reflex refence to a thread lock.

And I am the LAST person to accuse of whining abotu the Dem majority - the Repubs had victory in their hands and pissed it away right properly. I may not LIKE the result, but I'm dealing fine with it.

Unlike your unrelenting petulant whining for the last few years, my dear.

-dale

Ray

Women are entitled to whine as men are allowed to Bark!

Julie

I was referencing your accusation of "Democratic suppression of speech" toward me when I wasn't the one deleting a milestone of posts.

I agree with that to a certain extent.

Me, along with the majority of America, my dear.

dalem

Ahh, fair enough. Comment withdrawn.

So just because you have a lot of whiners on your side your whining is made appropriate?

-dale

Dreadnought

Im wondering where the Palastinians got the idea to trade 500 for 1 Israeli at? Yeah they're ready for peace...LMAO If she visited while Arial Sharon was still in charge instead of going to Syria (Isolated by U.S. Foreign Policy) I think she would have been told the dishes are calling do you know where they are? No offense but this lady dont know her ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to Foreign Policy especially between these three players. (Israel,Palastine and Syria) And I hope that if by stroke of luck the Dems gain the office then she continues her own Foreign Policy agenda because if not it shows she was truelly spitefully undermining the office of the President of the U.S. and the VP needless to say the ghosts will come back to haunt both her and the Dems as we call for their heads,impeachment and whatever investigations needed to have her tossed from the speakers position as well the Dem have in the course of "respect" for the office have sunken to a new low. One that which we wont mind pushing their noses into when given the chance come the future

She also did us a favor by showing how much of an idiot the Dem party is and just think all during the running for 08. Priceless!

Thanks Nacy, so what do you think an Iranian visit next? Please since you seem to know so much then indulge us and the U.N. and the rest of those concerned by doning your superwoman cape once again and pursuing your OWN foreign policy outside the current administration!

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Julie

I thought the same thing when I read about it. It's kind of funny if you think about it though....The Palestinian concept is it takes 500 Palestinians to make the worth of (1) Israeli soldier.

Bluesman

They likely think about it completely correctly: Israelis value their soldiers at a rate far exceeding what a Pallie values his comrades.

And they're correct about it, too.

Another lesson they learn every single time this is done: kidnapping/hostage-taking PAYS, and it pays VERY WELL.

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Ray

Islam is not about the individual.

Islam is about what the individual can do for the religion!

Death is but heavenly!

Julie

I think that is odd timing since Congress just allowed U.S. funds to be released for Abbas security in the amount of $86 million dollars. Congress allows U.S. funds for Abbas security | Politics | Reuters

I'm getting real confused about how we're supporting one part of the Palestinian Government (Abbas), but suppressing the remainder of it. I just don't see how it can be done.

Ironduke

Julie, it's a choice between helping prop up the more rational actors within the Palestinian territories vs. the Islamists, the secular nationalists (PA) who are squared off against the Islamists (Hamas). If Hamas keeps a grip over the Palestinian Territories there will be no possibility of any type of settlement.

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Shipwreck

Islam is very much unique in that it establishes a direct relationship between God and each individual, without any intercessor.

Or at least that's the theory of it...

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Ray

That is the unfortunate thing about Islam.

There is no connection between theory and practice.

In Islam there is no intermediation between Allah & the folks.

Yet the mullah man rules!

Dreadnought

Yeah, But by misleading others of what Israel is willing to settle for makes her look like an idiot and makes this country look like we dont know what we are doing with our Foreign policy when this is clearly not the case. Syria has been isolated for a reason and that reason being much more in depth then she can possibly fathom..She belongs in the kitchen doing the dishes and cleaning the house because she has absolutely no clue of what Foreign Policy is.

Dreadnought

So in other words they are open to their own interpitation of what the Koran reads and what is right and what is wrong?