Pakistan: President sacks chief justice

Lahori paa jee · 03-09-2007, 09:48 AM

Quote:

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf on Friday sacked the country's chief justice on charges of misconduct and misuse of authority, the information minister said.

Musharraf has now referred the case of chief justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry to Pakistan's top judicial accountability body, Information Minister Mohammad Ali Durrani said.

"The president has taken the action after numerous complaints and having personally heard the chief justice. He has acted under the constitutional requirement," Durrani said.

An official statement said Musharraf acted "after receiving numerous complaints and serious allegations for misconduct, misuse of authority and actions prejudicial to the dignity of office of the Chief Justice of Pakistan."

DNA - World - Pakistan President sacks chief justice - Daily News & Analysis

This is another attack on Supreme court of Pakistan.

NS was blamed for an attack on supreme court during his tenure. Thank God Mush has done it too. Score is equal now. Both removed army chiefs, president and now chief justice.

A dark day in our history. The CJ was called in Army house Rawalpindi by Musharaf. What a humiliation. How can CJ be called to Army house

Ray · 03-09-2007, 10:43 AM

The CJ didn't play ball?

romail · 03-09-2007, 11:28 AM

A city of dismissal

Nobody knows who will stay or not

Mush has the power

Ministers are afraid

People are dying because of poverty

People are killing their on nationals in Pakistan

Provinces are fighting with each other for water and electricity

No body is calm

PRICES HIKE OF PETROL ,GAS,ELECTRICITY ,PEOPLE'S SLEEPLESS

PRESIDENT GIVES ORDERS OF PRICES HIKE? IS THIS JOKE?

Mush is another hitler

FIRST HE TAKE SEAT OFF PM NAWAZ SHARIF SEAT THEN CHEIF JUSTICE

I THINK HE IS THINKING WHEN TO TAKE SEAT OFF HIS POWER I THINK NEVER
BECAUSE UNIFORM IS TIGHT AND HARD TO CHANGE

Karthik · 03-09-2007, 12:13 PM

It was almost as if something like this was waiting to happen. Its 2007 after all. Its heating up. Nice.

Lahori paa jee · 03-09-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Karthik

It was almost as if something like this was waiting to happen. Its 2007 after all. Its heating up. Nice.

You are very right. This was always expected. Especially after the PSM ruling, his suo moto actions on a number of cases and recent confrontation with government over the disappearances of alot of people.

Karthik · 03-09-2007, 13:37 PM

But Lahori, would you rather see Musharraf go? What would be the alternative and its pros and cons?

Musharraf may not have many fans, but many people think that things will take a course for the worse without him. What's your take on this?

cheetah · 03-09-2007, 16:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik

But Lahori, would you rather see Musharraf go? What would be the alternative and its pros and cons?

Musharraf may not have many fans, but many people think that things will take a course for the worse without him. What's your take on this?

lol its the funniest thing.u see this paa jee guy is taliban party dont believe me ask him his father was part of the nawaz government.
his complete beef with musshy is his dad lost the power.that dude he is talking about that was sacked by mushy is nothing but a trouble maker.there are lots of complains about him.

Quote:

"The president has taken the action after numerous complaints and having personally heard the chief justice. He has acted under the constitutional requirement,"

paa jee belongs to the group that will sell there soul for money.pakistan was alomost bankrupt when nawaz was sacked.ask paa jee where the money was going.and you will get the answer why he hates mush and pakistan.there golden egg was taken from them.

Lahori paa jee · 03-09-2007, 17:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheetah

lol its the funniest thing.u see this paa jee guy is taliban party dont believe me ask him his father was part of the nawaz government.
his complete beef with musshy is his dad lost the power.that dude he is talking about that was sacked by mushy is nothing but a trouble maker.there are lots of complains about him.

paa jee belongs to the group that will sell there soul for money.pakistan was alomost bankrupt when nawaz was sacked.ask paa jee where the money was going.and you will get the answer why he hates mush and pakistan.there golden egg was taken from them.

My dad contested and won election in 2002 on a PMLQ ticket (NS was out of office in 1999) and never under NS so what you say is pure bull&hit

Tronic · 03-09-2007, 18:01 PM

Whats your father's name?

**Parihaka** · 03-09-2007, 20:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheetah

lol its the funniest thing.u see this paa jee guy is taliban party dont believe me ask him his father was part of the nawaz government.
his complete beef with musshy is his dad lost the power.that dude he is talking about that was sacked by mushy is nothing but a trouble maker.there are lots of complains about him.

paa jee belongs to the group that will sell there soul for money.pakistan was alomost bankrupt when nawaz was sacked.ask paa jee where the money was going.and you will get the answer why he hates mush and pakistan.there golden egg was taken from them.

Cheetah, I've reviewed this and other posts by you and while it's refreshing to have a different point of view your inability to discriminate fact from fiction is alarming. More to the point however is we do not accept attacks on other members, deal with the issue, not the poster. This is a formal warning.

lemontree · 03-12-2007, 04:56 AM

The fun is just starting.

The Chief Justice seems ready to fight it out, and so is the media and the nations lawyers.

Quote:

Sacked Pak chief justice defiant, refuses to quit
Sacked Pak chief justice defiant, refuses to quit-Pakistan-World-NEWS-The Times of India
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is in the throes of a "junta versus judiciary" clash between president Pervez Musharraf and chief justice Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry after the latter, suspected to be under house arrest, refused to resign amid nationwide protests by lawyers in his support.

Lawyers, media persons and even a sitting judge, Raja Fayyaz Ahmed, were turned away from Chaudhry's residence, "politely, but firmly", by the police and staff, local reports said.

Protests and rallies took place across the country as PM Shaukat Aziz tersely justified the president's action of suspending Chaudhry and referring the charge of misuse of authority levelled against him before the Supreme Judicial Council (SJC).

Aziz declined to offer a direct comment saying the matter was sub judice. But Dawn quoted him as saying: "Every violator of the law of the land in any other field will face the same treatment."

"I will never resign voluntarily ... I have done nothing wrong," Chaudhry told SC bar association president Munir A Malik, who called the chief justice over the telephone in front of reporters. According to Malik, Chaudhry indicated his readiness to challenge the presidential reference against him.

In office since June 2005, Chaudhry has been accused of influencing the appointment of his son Arslan, a medico, into the police force even though he had failed in a qualifying examination.

However, the protesting lawyers and the media attributed the presidential action to Chaudhry's judicial activism.
Lawyers said they would lay a siege when SJC meets on Tuesday. They questioned SJC's impartiality saying two of the members were opposed to it.

Samudra · 03-12-2007, 09:16 AM

Sparten, Whats your take on this ?

BTW What if a bunch of Generals decide to support the CJ ?

Ray · 03-12-2007, 11:21 AM

Musharraf has been caught in his den!

A very tricky situation!

cheetah · 03-12-2007, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parihaka

Cheetah, I've reviewed this and other posts by you and while it's refreshing to have a different point of view your inability to discriminate fact from fiction is alarming. More to the point however is we do not accept attacks on other members, deal with the issue, not the poster. This is a formal warning.

thank you very much for appreciating my views.
dealing with issue is for the courts.why was this judge sacked most here probably have no clue.
general has to clean house.and this is part of that.lahori-paa-jee and his friends were part of the previous government that supported Talibans openly.iam not trying to attack another member iam just trying to explain why he is so upset about this situation.hope fully this will explain my side of the story.

Ray · 03-12-2007, 11:29 AM

Musharraf clean?

This is what the US press has to state:

Quote:

Corruption and extremism in Pakistan : Why Musharraf clings to power

By Selig S. Harrison International Herald Tribune

Friday, May 10, 2002
General Pervez Musharraf tells the world that he must perpetuate military rule in order to save Pakistan from two scourges: corrupt, money-grubbing politicians and Islamic extremists.
.
But one of the key reasons why he is so determined to hold on to power is that the generals like the smell of money just as much as the politicians. As chief of staff of the armed forces, Musharraf presides over a vast industrial, commercial and real estate empire under direct military control with assets and investments of at least $5 billion
.
As for Islamic extremists, despite promises of a crackdown designed to please foreign listeners, he has done little for fear of alienating powerful hard-line generals who want to continue using Islamic militants to destabilize India.
.
Shielding the business activities of the armed forces from the prying eyes of civilian government ministers and parliamentary committees has been a preoccupation of the four military regimes that have ruled Pakistan. Musharraf's rigged presidential referendum last week will give him the power to curb the investigative activities of the lawmakers scheduled to be elected in October.
.
The core of the military business empire is a little-known network of four foundations that were originally created to promote the welfare of retired servicemen but have since branched out into multifarious money-making ventures manned by 18,000 serving and retired military officers.
.
The biggest of these, the Fauji Foundation, is the single largest business conglomerate in Pakistan, with assets of $200 million. Fauji operates 11 enterprises ranging from cereal, cement and fertilizer companies to sugar mills and oil storage terminals. Three other foundations, Shaheen, Bahria and the Army Welfare Trust, run everything from banks and insurance companies to airlines, all under the control of the Defense Ministry or one of the three services.
.
In addition to the foundations, the armed forces also control a variety of large independent business activities, notably the National Logistics Cell, a trucking and transportation giant, and the Frontier Works Organization, which has a virtual monopoly in road-building and construction. Both were established to serve military needs but grew so fat with military contracts that they moved into the civilian economy and have gradually squeezed out most private competitors.
.
Musharraf would no doubt say that the armed forces know how to run business ventures more efficiently than civilians.
.
But the Pakistani defense analyst Ayesha Agha-Siddiqa demonstrated in her carefully documented study, "Soldiers in Business," that "most of these business ventures have been suffering losses that are covered by financial injections from the national exchequer," either from the defense budget or from various public sector enterprises vulnerable to military pressure.
.
Agha-Siddiqa, former director of naval research for the Pakistan Navy, points to the opportunities for corruption resulting from the military business empire's exempttion from "even a trace of public accountability."
.
Whether or not they are a cover for large-scale corruption, it is clear that the foundations provide perks, privileges and fancy salaries for serving and retired officers, beyond public scrutiny, that give the armed forces a powerful vested interest in retaining power. Moreover, the constant flow of public resources from the national budget to military-controlled ventures to cover their losses constitutes a financial drain that a deeply indebted, bankrupt country like Pakistan, dependent on U.S. and International Monetary Fund aid, cannot afford.
.
Musharraf's claim that military rule is needed to combat Islamic extremism is increasingly implausible. After making a big show of arresting 2,000 Islamic militants immediately after his Jan. 12 speech pledging a crackdown, most of them were released with a "conditional amnesty" on March 7, provided they agreed to sign a statement declaring that they would give up extremist activities.
.
Among those released were the leaders of Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed, Hafiz Mohammed Saeed and Maulana Masood Azhar. These groups, which have close ties with Al Qaeda, are on the State Department list of foreign terrorist organizations. Both send Pakistani Islamic militants into Indian-held areas of Kashmir to carry out terrorist attacks against state officials and other Kashmiri civilians who refuse to support Pakistani-sponsored Kashmiri insurgent groups. Saeed is in a Pakistan government guest house where he has a telephone. Azhar is under house arrest but can receive his Jaish-e-Mohammed lieutenants.
.
When a key Qaeda fugitive, Abu Zubayda, was captured with his henchmen by FBI agents and Pakistani police in early April, the Pakistani authorities, ignoring American protests, released 16 of the captured Pakistanis who were suspected to be Lashkar-e-Taiba members.
.
To give Musharraf his due, he has made good on his Jan. 12 pledge to crack down on one type of Islamic extremism: the destructive sectarian warfare between militant Shia and Sunni groups within Pakistan that target each other, undermining Pakistan's internal stability. But he has pointedly stopped short of dismantling the Islamic extremist groups that target India and the United States.
.
The reason is that the Pakistan armed forces and intelligence agencies are still riddled with Islamic extremist sympathizers such as General Mohammed Aziz, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff.
.
Perpetuating military rule will not cleanse Pakistan of corruption or Islamic extremism. It will intensify the danger of another war between the forward-deployed armies of South Asia's nuclear-armed neighbors and it will assure that Qaeda fugitives hiding out in Pakistan will continue to have protectors in high places.
.
The writer, director of the Asia Program of the Center for International Policy, contributed this comment to the International Herald Tribune.
.
[Not to be reproduced without the permission of the author.]
General Pervez Musharraf tells the world that he must perpetuate military rule in order to save Pakistan from two scourges: corrupt, money-grubbing politicians and Islamic extremists.
.
But one of the key reasons why he is so determined to hold on to power is that the generals like the smell of money just as much as the politicians. As chief of staff of the armed forces, Musharraf presides over a vast industrial, commercial and real estate empire under direct military control with assets and investments of at least $5 billion
.
As for Islamic extremists, despite promises of a crackdown designed to please foreign listeners, he has done little for fear of alienating powerful hard-line generals who want to continue using Islamic militants to destabilize India.
.
Shielding the business activities of the armed forces from the prying eyes of civilian government ministers and parliamentary committees has been a preoccupation of the four military regimes that have ruled Pakistan. Musharraf's rigged presidential referendum last week will give him the power to curb the investigative activities of the lawmakers scheduled to be elected in October.
.
The core of the military business empire is a little-known network of four foundations that were originally created to promote the welfare of retired servicemen but have since branched out into multifarious money-making ventures manned by 18,000 serving and retired military officers.
.
The biggest of these, the Fauji Foundation, is the single largest business conglomerate in Pakistan, with assets of $200 million. Fauji operates 11 enterprises ranging from cereal, cement and fertilizer companies to sugar mills and oil storage terminals. Three other foundations, Shaheen, Bahria and the Army Welfare Trust, run everything from banks and insurance companies to airlines, all under the control of the Defense Ministry or one of the three services.
.
In addition to the foundations, the armed forces also control a variety of large independent business activities, notably the National Logistics Cell, a trucking and transportation giant, and the Frontier Works Organization, which has a virtual monopoly in road-building and construction. Both were established to serve military needs but grew so fat with military contracts that they moved into the civilian economy and have gradually squeezed out most private competitors.
.
Musharraf would no doubt say that the armed forces know how to run business ventures more efficiently than civilians.
.
But the Pakistani defense analyst Ayesha Agha-Siddiqa demonstrated in her carefully documented study, "Soldiers in Business," that "most of these business ventures have been suffering losses that are covered by financial injections from the national exchequer," either from the defense budget or from various public sector enterprises vulnerable to military pressure.
.
Agha-Siddiqa, former director of naval research for the Pakistan Navy, points to the opportunities for corruption resulting from the military business empire's exempttion from "even a trace of public accountability."
.
Whether or not they are a cover for large-scale corruption, it is clear that the foundations provide perks, privileges and fancy salaries for serving and retired officers, beyond public scrutiny, that give the armed forces a powerful vested interest in retaining power. Moreover, the constant flow of public resources from the national budget to military-controlled ventures to cover their losses constitutes a financial drain that a deeply indebted, bankrupt country like Pakistan, dependent on U.S. and International Monetary Fund aid, cannot afford.
.
Musharraf's claim that military rule is needed to combat Islamic extremism is increasingly implausible. After making a big show of arresting 2,000 Islamic militants immediately after his Jan. 12 speech pledging a crackdown, most of them were released with a "conditional amnesty" on March 7, provided they agreed to sign a statement declaring that they would give up extremist activities.
.
Among those released were the leaders of Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed, Hafiz Mohammed Saeed and Maulana Masood Azhar. These groups, which have close ties with Al Qaeda, are on the State Department list of foreign terrorist organizations. Both send Pakistani Islamic militants into Indian-held areas of Kashmir to carry out terrorist attacks against state officials and other Kashmiri civilians who refuse to support Pakistani-sponsored Kashmiri insurgent groups. Saeed is in a Pakistan government guest house where he has a telephone. Azhar is under house arrest but can receive his Jaish-e-Mohammed lieutenants.
.
When a key Qaeda fugitive, Abu Zubayda, was captured with his henchmen by FBI agents and Pakistani police in early April, the Pakistani authorities, ignoring American protests, released 16 of the captured Pakistanis who were suspected to be Lashkar-e-Taiba members.
.
To give Musharraf his due, he has made good on his Jan. 12 pledge to crack down on one type of Islamic extremism: the destructive sectarian warfare between militant Shia and Sunni groups within Pakistan that target each other, undermining Pakistan's internal stability. But he has pointedly stopped short of dismantling the Islamic extremist groups that target India and the United States.
.
The reason is that the Pakistan armed forces and intelligence agencies are still riddled with Islamic extremist sympathizers such as General Mohammed Aziz, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff.
.
Perpetuating military rule will not cleanse Pakistan of corruption or Islamic extremism. It will intensify the danger of another war between the forward-deployed armies of South Asia's nuclear-armed neighbors and it will assure that Qaeda fugitives hiding out in Pakistan will continue to have protectors in high places.
.
The writer, director of the Asia Program of the Center for International Policy, contributed this comment to the International Herald Tribune.
.
[Not to be reproduced without the permission of the author.]
General Pervez Musharraf tells the world that he must perpetuate military rule in order to save Pakistan from two scourges: corrupt, money-grubbing politicians and Islamic extremists.
.
But one of the key reasons why he is so determined to hold on to power is that the generals like the smell of money just as much as the politicians. As chief of staff of the armed forces, Musharraf presides over a vast industrial, commercial and real estate empire under direct military control with assets and investments of at least $5 billion
.
As for Islamic extremists, despite promises of a crackdown designed to please foreign listeners, he has done little for fear of alienating powerful hard-line generals who want to continue using Islamic militants to destabilize India.
.
Shielding the business activities of the armed forces from the prying eyes of civilian government ministers and parliamentary committees has been a preoccupation of the four military regimes that have ruled Pakistan. Musharraf's rigged presidential referendum last week will give him the power to curb the investigative activities of the lawmakers scheduled to be elected in October.
.
The core of the military business empire is a little-known network of four foundations that were originally created to promote the welfare of retired servicemen but have since branched out into multifarious money-making ventures manned by 18,000 serving and retired military officers.
.
The biggest of these, the Fauji Foundation, is the single largest business conglomerate in Pakistan, with assets of $200 million. Fauji operates 11 enterprises ranging from cereal, cement and fertilizer companies to sugar mills and oil storage terminals. Three other foundations, Shaheen, Bahria and the Army Welfare Trust, run everything from banks and insurance companies to airlines, all under the control of the Defense Ministry or one of the three services.
.
In addition to the foundations, the armed forces also control a variety of large independent business activities, notably the National Logistics Cell, a trucking and transportation giant, and the Frontier Works Organization, which has a virtual monopoly in road-building and construction. Both were established to serve military needs but grew so fat with military contracts that they moved into the civilian economy and have gradually squeezed out most private competitors.
.
Musharraf would no doubt say that the armed forces know how to run business ventures more efficiently than civilians.
.
But the Pakistani defense analyst Ayesha Agha-Siddiqa demonstrated in her carefully documented study, "Soldiers in Business," that "most of these business ventures have been suffering losses that are covered by financial injections from the national exchequer," either from the defense budget or from various public sector enterprises vulnerable to military pressure.
.
Agha-Siddiqa, former director of naval research for the Pakistan Navy, points to the opportunities for corruption resulting from the military business empire's exempttion from "even a trace of public accountability."
.
Whether or not they are a cover for large-scale corruption, it is clear that the foundations provide perks, privileges and fancy salaries for serving and retired officers, beyond public scrutiny, that give the armed forces a powerful vested interest in retaining power. Moreover, the constant flow of public resources from the national budget to military-controlled ventures to cover their losses constitutes a financial drain that a deeply indebted, bankrupt country like Pakistan, dependent on U.S. and International Monetary Fund aid, cannot afford.
.
Musharraf's claim that military rule is needed to combat Islamic extremism is increasingly implausible. After making a big show of arresting 2,000 Islamic militants immediately after his Jan. 12 speech pledging a crackdown, most of them were released with a "conditional amnesty" on March 7, provided they agreed to sign a statement declaring that they would give up extremist activities.
.
Among those released were the leaders of Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed, Hafiz Mohammed Saeed and Maulana Masood Azhar. These groups, which have close ties with Al Qaeda, are on the State Department list of foreign terrorist organizations. Both send Pakistani Islamic militants into Indian-held areas of Kashmir to carry out terrorist attacks against state officials and other Kashmiri civilians who refuse to support Pakistani-sponsored Kashmiri insurgent groups. Saeed is in a Pakistan government guest house where he has a telephone. Azhar is under house arrest but can receive his Jaish-e-Mohammed lieutenants.
.
When a key Qaeda fugitive, Abu Zubayda, was captured with his henchmen by FBI agents and Pakistani police in early April, the Pakistani authorities, ignoring American protests, released 16 of the captured Pakistanis who were suspected to be Lashkar-e-Taiba members.
.
To give Musharraf his due, he has made good on his Jan. 12 pledge to crack down on one type of Islamic extremism: the destructive sectarian warfare between militant Shia and Sunni groups within Pakistan that target each other, undermining Pakistan's internal stability. But he has pointedly stopped short of dismantling the Islamic extremist groups that target India and the United States.
.
The reason is that the Pakistan armed forces and intelligence agencies are still riddled with Islamic extremist sympathizers such as General Mohammed Aziz, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff.
.
Perpetuating military rule will not cleanse Pakistan of corruption or Islamic extremism. It will intensify the danger of another war between the forward-deployed armies of South Asia's nuclear-armed neighbors and it will assure that Qaeda fugitives hiding out in Pakistan will continue to have protectors in high places.
.
The writer, director of the Asia Program of the Center for International Policy, contributed this comment to the International Herald Tribune.
.
[Not to be reproduced without the permission of the author.]
General Pervez Musharraf tells the world that he must perpetuate military rule in order to save Pakistan from two scourges: corrupt, money-grubbing politicians and Islamic extremists.
.
But one of the key reasons why he is so determined to hold on to power is that the generals like the smell of money just as much as the politicians. As chief of staff of the armed forces, Musharraf presides over a vast industrial, commercial and real estate empire under direct military control with assets and investments of at least $5 billion
.
As for Islamic extremists, despite promises of a crackdown designed to please foreign listeners, he has done little for fear of alienating powerful hard-line generals who want to continue using Islamic militants to destabilize India.
.
Shielding the business activities of the armed forces from the prying eyes of civilian government ministers and parliamentary committees has been a preoccupation of the four military regimes that have ruled Pakistan. Musharraf's rigged presidential referendum last week will give him the power to curb the investigative activities of the lawmakers scheduled to be elected in October.
.
The core of the military business empire is a little-known network of four foundations that were originally created to promote the welfare of retired servicemen but have since branched out into multifarious money-making ventures manned by 18,000 serving and retired military officers.
.
The biggest of these, the Fauji Foundation, is the single largest business conglomerate in Pakistan, with assets of $200 million. Fauji operates 11 enterprises ranging from cereal, cement and fertilizer companies to sugar mills and oil storage terminals. Three other foundations, Shaheen, Bahria and the Army Welfare Trust, run everything from banks and insurance companies to airlines, all under the control of the Defense Ministry or one of the three services.
.
In addition to the foundations, the armed forces also control a variety of large independent business activities, notably the National Logistics Cell, a trucking and transportation giant, and the Frontier Works Organization, which has a virtual monopoly in road-building and construction. Both were established to serve military needs but grew so fat with military contracts that they moved into the civilian economy and have gradually squeezed out most private competitors.
.
Musharraf would no doubt say that the armed forces know how to run business ventures more efficiently than civilians.
.
But the Pakistani defense analyst Ayesha Agha-Siddiqa demonstrated in her carefully documented study, "Soldiers in Business," that "most of these business ventures have been suffering losses that are covered by financial injections from the national exchequer," either from the defense budget or from various public sector enterprises vulnerable to military pressure.
.
Agha-Siddiqa, former director of naval research for the Pakistan Navy, points to the opportunities for corruption resulting from the military business empire's exempttion from "even a trace of public accountability."
.
Whether or not they are a cover for large-scale corruption, it is clear that the foundations provide perks, privileges and fancy salaries for serving and retired officers, beyond public scrutiny, that give the armed forces a powerful vested interest in retaining power. Moreover, the constant flow of public resources from the national budget to military-controlled ventures to cover their losses constitutes a financial drain that a deeply indebted, bankrupt country like Pakistan, dependent on U.S. and International Monetary Fund aid, cannot afford.
.
Musharraf's claim that military rule is needed to combat Islamic extremism is increasingly implausible. After making a big show of arresting 2,000 Islamic militants immediately after his Jan. 12 speech pledging a crackdown, most of them were released with a "conditional amnesty" on March 7, provided they agreed to sign a statement declaring that they would give up extremist activities.
.
Among those released were the leaders of Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed, Hafiz Mohammed Saeed and Maulana Masood Azhar. These groups, which have close ties with Al Qaeda, are on the State Department list of foreign terrorist organizations. Both send Pakistani Islamic militants into Indian-held areas of Kashmir to carry out terrorist attacks against state officials and other Kashmiri civilians who refuse to support Pakistani-sponsored Kashmiri insurgent groups. Saeed is in a Pakistan government guest house where he has a telephone. Azhar is under house arrest but can receive his Jaish-e-Mohammed lieutenants.
.
When a key Qaeda fugitive, Abu Zubayda, was captured with his henchmen by FBI agents and Pakistani police in early April, the Pakistani authorities, ignoring American protests, released 16 of the captured Pakistanis who were suspected to be Lashkar-e-Taiba members.
.
To give Musharraf his due, he has made good on his Jan. 12 pledge to crack down on one type of Islamic extremism: the destructive sectarian warfare between militant Shia and Sunni groups within Pakistan that target each other, undermining Pakistan's internal stability. But he has pointedly stopped short of dismantling the Islamic extremist groups that target India and the United States.
.
The reason is that the Pakistan armed forces and intelligence agencies are still riddled with Islamic extremist sympathizers such as General Mohammed Aziz, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff.
.
Perpetuating military rule will not cleanse Pakistan of corruption or Islamic extremism. It will intensify the danger of another war between the forward-deployed armies of South Asia's nuclear-armed neighbors and it will assure that Qaeda fugitives hiding out in Pakistan will continue to have protectors in high places.
Corruption and extremism in Pakistan : Why Musharraf clings to power

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romail New Member Join Date: 09-18-06 Location: USA Posts: 13 Country:	This Is Islamabad A city of dismissal Nobody knows who will stay or not Mush has the power Ministers are afraid People are dying because of poverty People are killing their on nationals in Pakistan Provinces are fighting with each other for water and electricity No body is calm PRICES HIKE OF PETROL ,GAS,ELECTRICITY ,PEOPLE'S SLEEPLESS PRESIDENT GIVES ORDERS OF PRICES HIKE? IS THIS JOKE? Mush is another hitler FIRST HE TAKE SEAT OFF PM NAWAZ SHARIF SEAT THEN CHEIF JUSTICE I THINK HE IS THINKING WHEN TO TAKE SEAT OFF HIS POWER I THINK NEVER BECAUSE UNIFORM IS TIGHT AND HARD TO CHANGE __________________ ROMAIL THE CKONE

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