Powell: Win One for the Gipper

**Ironduke** · 03-08-2007, 18:45 PM

With the 2008 Presidential elections coming up, the debacles of the current administration, and the Republican Party losing touch with the American populace, I strongly believe the US needs a statesman and general in the Oval Office.

Powell has not made any announcements regarding a possible candidacy, but as in the past, there are whispers and strong urgings for Powell to seriously consider a run for the White House. I believe the good general would have the strength and direction necessary to carry America forward into the 21st century.

General Powell... win one for the Gipper.

T_igger_cs_30 · 03-08-2007, 20:12 PM

He certainly has always given me the impression he is the voice of reason Ironduke.

Debbie · 03-08-2007, 23:17 PM

Don't you think that he has seriously been damaged by being a puppet for Bush? I like Powell, have always liked him, but I believe that he won't be able to be taken seriously at this time.

dave lukins · 03-08-2007, 23:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Debbie

Don't you think that he has seriously been damaged by being a puppet for Bush? I like Powell, have always liked him, but I believe that he won't be able to be taken seriously at this time.

Debbie you're right, if the Gen. had "gone for it" when he was at his most popular he would have stood a chance. Sadly for the US his time seems to have passed, but never say never!!

**Ironduke** · 03-08-2007, 23:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Debbie

Don't you think that he has seriously been damaged by being a puppet for Bush? I like Powell, have always liked him, but I believe that he won't be able to be taken seriously at this time.

I think it would mostly wash.

smilingassassin · 03-09-2007, 04:29 AM

I don't see how Giuliani can be ruled out if it comes down to him or Obama/Clinton.

**Ironduke** · 03-09-2007, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by smilingassassin

I don't see how Giuliani can be ruled out if it comes down to him or Obama/Clinton.

I don't think Giuliani could court much support in the South... Powell, on the other hand, could garner a large portion of the electorate that is center-right as well as center-left, as well as most of the military and much of the black vote. I think a Powell ticket would see reduced turnout among Southern conservatives (for whatever reason), but still think he could carry a fair number of the South and North, as well as solidly carrying the mountain states and much of the Midwest. The Northeast and California would likely remain blue states.

The problem with Giuliani is that he can't carry the South (imo)... he's considered a RINO (Republican-In-Name-Only). A southern Democrat would sweep the South. I believe people would see Powell's UN presentation as orchestrated by those above, and it might mostly wash.

dalem · 03-09-2007, 05:50 AM

I can't get around the fact that Powell's never actually done anything that shows me he's a capable leader. What has he done?

-dale

**Ironduke** · 03-09-2007, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dalem

I can't get around the fact that Powell's never actually done anything that shows me he's a capable leader. What has he done?

-dale

What type of leadership are you referring to? Moral, military... domestic or foreign policy? I would argue that he has better qualifications than George W. Bush.

Kassad · 03-09-2007, 17:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dalem

I can't get around the fact that Powell's never actually done anything that shows me he's a capable leader. What has he done?

-dale

Four star general.
National security advisor.
Secretary of state.
Chairman of the joint chief of staff.
Vietnam vet.
Purple heart.
Just to name a few things.

He seems to have the credentials of a leader.

**Lunatock** · 03-09-2007, 17:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debbie

Don't you think that he has seriously been damaged by being a puppet for Bush? I like Powell, have always liked him, but I believe that he won't be able to be taken seriously at this time.

He was a puppet for Clinton and was able to keep going.

Debbie · 03-09-2007, 23:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lunatock

He was a puppet for Clinton and was able to keep going.

He can only go on that for so long. Maybe in another four years he can throw his hat in the ring and it might be a good time to do so. As Americans we tend to have a short memory and forgiveness regarding character steps in eventually.

**Ironduke** · 03-09-2007, 23:17 PM

On my way out... to list a few awards, and followup later.

Full list of national medals:

Defense Distinguished Service Medal (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Distinguished Service Medal, Army (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
Distinguished Service Medal, Air Force
Distinguished Service Medal, Navy
Distinguished Service Medal, Coast Guard
Defense Superior Service Medal
Legion of Merit (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
Soldier's Medal
Bronze Star Medal (with "V" Device)
Purple Heart
Air Medal
Joint Service Commendation Medal
Army Commendation Medal (with 2 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Presidential Medal of Freedom (order of precedence, if worn)
Presidential Citizens Medal (order of precedence, if worn)
National Defense Service Medal (with 1 Bronze Service Star)
Vietnam Service Medal (with 1 Silver Service Star)
Army Service Ribbon
Army Overseas Service Ribbon (with numeral 3)
Ronald Reagan Freedom Award

Badges:

Expert Infantryman Badge
Combat Infantryman Badge
Ranger Tab
Parachutist Badge
Pathfinder Badge
Air Assault Badge
Presidential Service Badge
Secretary of Defense Identification Badge
Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge
Army Staff Identification Badge

dalem · 03-10-2007, 06:15 AM

But what major policy has he created or supported that achieved something?

-dale

gunnut · 03-10-2007, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kassad

Four star general.
National security advisor.
Secretary of state.
Chairman of the joint chief of staff.
Vietnam vet.
Purple heart.
Just to name a few things.

He seems to have the credentials of a leader.

I think dalem means Powell has not demonstrated his ability to be an administrator who can play politics.

03-08-2007, 18:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ironduke Burgomaster Join Date: 08-02-03 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 6,991 Country:	Powell: Win One for the Gipper With the 2008 Presidential elections coming up, the debacles of the current administration, and the Republican Party losing touch with the American populace, I strongly believe the US needs a statesman and general in the Oval Office. Powell has not made any announcements regarding a possible candidacy, but as in the past, there are whispers and strong urgings for Powell to seriously consider a run for the White House. I believe the good general would have the strength and direction necessary to carry America forward into the 21st century. General Powell... win one for the Gipper. __________________ The Buck Stops Here

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T_igger_cs_30 *Military Professional* Join Date: 01-04-07 Location: Canada Posts: 2,148 Country:	He certainly has always given me the impression he is the voice of reason Ironduke. __________________ $<img src=http://C:\Documents and Settings\Wayne Smith\My Documents\002...My Pictures border=0 alt= />$ FEAR NAUGHT I don't work here ...I am an analyst!

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smilingassassin *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 12-12-03 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 2,751 Country:	I don't see how Giuliani can be ruled out if it comes down to him or Obama/Clinton. __________________ Facts to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman. -- Larry Elder

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Ironduke Burgomaster Join Date: 08-02-03 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 6,991 Country:	On my way out... to list a few awards, and followup later. Full list of national medals: Defense Distinguished Service Medal (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters) Distinguished Service Medal, Army (with Oak Leaf Cluster) Distinguished Service Medal, Air Force Distinguished Service Medal, Navy Distinguished Service Medal, Coast Guard Defense Superior Service Medal Legion of Merit (with Oak Leaf Cluster) Soldier's Medal Bronze Star Medal (with "V" Device) Purple Heart Air Medal Joint Service Commendation Medal Army Commendation Medal (with 2 Oak Leaf Clusters) Presidential Medal of Freedom (order of precedence, if worn) Presidential Citizens Medal (order of precedence, if worn) National Defense Service Medal (with 1 Bronze Service Star) Vietnam Service Medal (with 1 Silver Service Star) Army Service Ribbon Army Overseas Service Ribbon (with numeral 3) Ronald Reagan Freedom Award Badges: Expert Infantryman Badge Combat Infantryman Badge Ranger Tab Parachutist Badge Pathfinder Badge Air Assault Badge Presidential Service Badge Secretary of Defense Identification Badge Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge Army Staff Identification Badge

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Debbie WAB Cautioner of Poo *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 11-20-06 Location: BOONEYVILLE Wisconsin Posts: 4,139 Country:	Don't you think that he has seriously been damaged by being a puppet for Bush? I like Powell, have always liked him, but I believe that he won't be able to be taken seriously at this time.

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dalem Lord High Hullabalooster *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 11-23-04 Location: Columbia Heights, MN Posts: 8,766 Country:	I can't get around the fact that Powell's never actually done anything that shows me he's a capable leader. What has he done? -dale

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dalem Lord High Hullabalooster *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 11-23-04 Location: Columbia Heights, MN Posts: 8,766 Country:	But what major policy has he created or supported that achieved something? -dale

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