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Old 02-22-2007, 00:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Exercise "AMAN 07"

Is that part of the build-up? LOL!

Exercise AMAN 07 is scheduled from 6 – 13 March 2007, to be conducted in North Arabian Sea. Navies of 43 countries have been invited to participate. IPC for the same is scheduled to be conducted on 27 & 28 October 2006 from 0900 -1400 hrs at Commander Pakistan Fleet (COMPAK) Headquarters, Karachi.

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Pakistan will hold a multinational naval exercise against "maritime terrorism" next month involving the United States and China and with Iran as an observer, the Navy said Tuesday.

In all, 27 countries will participate in the March 6-13 exercise, called Aman 07, with ships special operations forces and observers, said Adm. Muhammad Afzal Tahir, the chief of Pakistan's navy.

The exercise is "designed to develop and improve response tactics, techniques and procedures against maritime terrorism," Tahir said. "It is based on offensive and defensive operations to protect economic activities in the sea."

Besides Pakistan, eight countries are expected to send ships or special forces for the exercise — the U.S, China, France, Britain, Italy, Turkey, Malaysia and Bangladesh. Other countries, including Iran, are to participate as observers.

Tahir said the exercise was conceived a year ago as a contribution to security in the Indian Ocean and bore no relation to current tension between Iran and Western nations
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A Chinese naval fleet left for Pakistan today to participate for the first time in a multi-national maritime military exercise against terrorism to be staged by its 'all-weather' ally.

The People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) fleet consisting of two frigates, namely, Lianyungang and Sanming (NDLT: Jiangwei-II class) left Ningbo port in East China's Zhejiang Province today for Pakistan to particpate in the exercises.

The 'Peace-07' exercises sponsored by the Pakistani navy, will involve warships, aircraft or special armed units from China, the United States, Britain, France, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Turkey.

The exercises are aimed at promoting cooperation and exchanges among the navies and raise their capability of combating terrorist attacks and taking joint actions as there are increasing maritime terrorist threats and challenges.

This is the first time for a Chinese naval fleet to take part in multinational military exercises, Xinhua news agency reported.

In the past, PLAN has held bilateral maritime military exercises with countries like India, US, Britain and Pakistan. Pakistani navy was the first to conduct a maritime military exercise with PLAN in October 2003.

The Chinese navy will take this opportunity to enhance cooperation with foreign counterparts and help build up its capability in anti-terrorism and cooperation with foreign armed forces, the foreign affairs office of China's National Defence Ministry said.
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Here is the schedule for the excercice.
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Old 02-22-2007, 01:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It will be observed by many a nation very closely!
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Old 02-22-2007, 19:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Navies of 43 countries have been invited to participate. But India and Russia were not mentioned. Were they invited?

I would like to see that Pakistan invites Indian Navy to join the exercise. I think that it is hard for India to refuse such an invitation for this multinational event. If India refuses, it shows that it is India's fault that does not want to improve the relation. It is a great opportunity for Pakistan because so many countries have already accepted the invitation. It will be a great show for Pakistan to boost its image and improve its relation with India.
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Old 02-22-2007, 20:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Navies of 43 countries have been invited to participate. But India and Russia were not mentioned. Were they invited?

I would like to see that Pakistan invites Indian Navy to join the exercise. I think that it is hard for India to refuse such an invitation for this multinational event. If India refuses, it shows that it is India's fault that does not want to improve the relation. It is a great opportunity for Pakistan because so many countries have already accepted the invitation. It will be a great show for Pakistan to boost its image and improve its relation with India.
If the boot was one the other foot ,would India have invited Pakistan? the rest of the senario is indeed subject to conjecture
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If the boot was one the other foot ,would India have invited Pakistan? the rest of the senario is indeed subject to conjecture
If I were Indian, I would invite Pakistan in the similar situation. I see gains and can't see negative aspect about it?
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If I were Indian, I would invite Pakistan in the similar situation. I see gains and can't see negative aspect about it?
Zeng Sir,the only negitive aspect is that you are not Indian or Pakistani. Politics ,Politics and damned Politics
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Navies of 43 countries have been invited to participate. But India and Russia were not mentioned. Were they invited?
Well, they mentionned participating navies, not observers, as listing 43 countries won't bring much to the discussion.
Now, each country, if open enough to speak about it, individualy, will state it in its news.

Now, it is not a wargame.
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Well, they mentionned participating navies, not observers, as listing 43 countries won't bring much to the discussion.
Now, each country, if open enough to speak about it, individualy, will state it in its news.

Now, it is not a wargame.
If it is a wargame, I understand why Parkistan doesn't want to invite India's ships.

It is not a wargame, why not show a good gesture to give India a special treat to invite India's ships for the exercise. Bangladesh was invited to send ships. I really think that it is wiser for Parkistan to let India feel not alienated.

Of cause, I am not Indian or Pakistani. May be I can not understand their politics.

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It actually makes no difference if India is invited or if Pakistan is invited to a naval exercise.

They will in any case be there to observe from a stand off distance!
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It actually makes no difference if India is invited or if Pakistan is invited to a naval exercise.

They will in any case be there to observe from a stand off distance!
Probably, I am just too naïve and hope that the good gesture may actually do something good to improve the trust between each other even just a little bit.

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The trust improve day by day!
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It actually makes no difference if India is invited or if Pakistan is invited to a naval exercise.

They will in any case be there to observe from a stand off distance!
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Probably, I am just too naïve and hope that the good gesture may actually do something good to improve the trust between each other even just a little bit.
You missed the point Zeng. Brig. Ray sir, means that the "Indians" will be there, even if not invited.

We have managed to even pick up uninvited PLAN spy ships disguised as fishing boats, so observing our 2 countries, out of 43 countries in the Arabian sea would not be a problem.
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So while Aman is going on there, exercise Garuda-III, between the French AF and the IAF is on, in India:

India- Mirage 2000H, MKI and MiG-27?
France: E3F, Mirage 2000-V, Mirage 2000-C, Rafale is stated to be not yet ready and India wants it for Garuda IV.


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I cant remember having seen 4 MKIs flying together before
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