Garuda

Were not the Bengalis of pre 71 pakistan their countrymen? Were not the abandoned NLI soldiers their countrymen? Heck, even the Baloch, Pashtuns, Mohajirs are supposed to be their countrymen.

Oh, my my...thank for little mercies...

Exactly, Laloo did that once.

Akshay

Pardon me my Lawd for being such an ignorant fool. I shall shoot down those horses of imagination that dared tresspass your island of Avalon.

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Parihaka

:ahem: Parihaka clears his throat and mutters something along the lines of letting the police do their job without everyone blaming everyone else:ahemoff:

Akshay

It could also be disgruntled militants who are frustrated with Musharaff for being too lenient in peace talks. And given their past records it doesn't seem hyperbolic that they can't pull something like this. But so called 'Hindu extremists' do not have a history of blowing trains. No such case has been registered before. Even the judicial court reviews an accused's past record before carrying out any further investigation.

Gujrat riots or Babri masjid demolition wern't planned operations. But the bomb blasts are. The former are categorized under law & order situation since these acts were committed in the heat of the moment & under some act of provocation. There wasn't any sort of planning involved though I can't be sure just as you arn't sure about Hindu militants blowing up the train. Also your comparison of Advani/Singhal with Dawoods/Chotta Rajan is plain ludicrous. The former are well educated individuals with right wing ploitical views while latter are hardcore criminals. Advani was a renowned lawyer while Ashok Singhal was a professor at Motilal Nehru regional engineering college.

kams

Interesting synopsis on Jehadi Press.

Behind the bombing of the train of love

Akshay

In India you can have some personnel randomly check your bags in event of suspicion. Drop a Gandhi(courtesy: Tronic ) in his pocket & you are through. There is no proper way to log the events.

No it wasn't.. It has never been. Go anywhere in Kennedy or Heathrow & you wouldn't be stopped but that doesn't mean that you arn't watched. There would probably be more CCTV cameras than people inside the airport. These airports have even got psychologists working with them to decipher the body language of any person who would seem to be wandering freely inside the airport complex. Any doubt & MPs would be ready to pounce on him in a flash. Actually US taxpayers don't really like to be stopped & checked. So, it has been substituted by technical vigilance.

I've personally witnessed fishermen bringing down smuggled goods on Uran beach(near Mumbai). Pay some extra cash & there is no reason why they wouldn't drop RDX on the shores. At Tutticorin port near cochin, you can get away just by giving a coke can & a 'camay' soap bar to the official.

The reason we are soft target is that we do not have the luxury to spend too much on security & vigilance. Britain has rather one of the most hostile immigrant muslim population(read Pakistanis). They are rather more vulnerable to any attacks than us but with efficiency & techinical vigilance they've been able to foil several such plots simply coz they've got eyes at every corner of the roads.

Hari_Om

Weird certainly. But not without precedent.

Subba has earlier in this thread pointed out the attack to stall the Srinagar/Muzafarabad bus service, another transport link that was established like the Samjhauta Express as a bridge of friendship.

Why limit oneself to the Bajrang Dal or some such group?

There are a lot of people in India who have lost near and dear ones to terrorist attacks by Pakistan based Jihadi groups. Not inconceivable that some of them may have decided to mete out retribution.

All possibilities must be investigated.

And not necessarily those limited to the obvious.

Obvious can change depending if one is thinking with Jihadi cap on or Jihadi cap off.

Hari_Om

More than interesting.

lemontree

This angle is quite interesting and plausable, especially if the adjecent train on the platform was headed for Gujarat.

But I don't believe that the Platform was dark, since Old Delhi station is well lit, and there are no reports of any power failure in Delhi that evening. Secondly, the train's destination is well advertised on the passenger coaches eg: Delhi-Attari-Delhi. Unless the bombers got late and jumped into the train at the last minute.

But the unexploded suitcase again justifies is theory, and if this really happened then its been one hell of a screwup on their part.

Last point, this theory would have been believable if the Sabarmati Exp stopped at Delhi. There are 6 Sabarmati trains i.e 9163, 9164, 9165, 9166, 9167 and 9168, and none of these trains pass Old Delhi station, so which Sabarmati Express are you talking about.
(Refer to Indian Railways train schedule Indian Railways Online Passenger Reservation Site Providing Availability etc..)

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Akshay

Capt, it is quite likely that those madarssa graduates might not have understood the hindi signs & confused themselves for 'Samjhauta' to 'Sabarmati'

lemontree

There is only one small question with this theory, which is the Sabarmati Express train that stops at Old Delhi station?

Please refer to end of my previous post, on train schedules.

Srirangan

Pakistani Jehad Organizations Found Involved in Samjhauta Express Train Blasts | India Defence

Jehadis have had no hesitations in killing muslims just as they have no problems killing kaffir hindus or crusading christians.

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Garuda

Aha...where are gamercube and jindal baby? Must be busy "investigating all possibilities". All possibilities to float Jihadi-Hindutava equal-equal perhaps.

veera8

when was the last time a hindu organsisation was convicted for bomb blasts ??? the highest thing those organisations do is just to shout slaogans and brandish their trident ,but u need real training to trigger such well co-ordiated attack ...

thats true ..i had occasinallly visited pee def and have felt sorry for u to been target of extreme racial attack and offensive language ....

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inevitability of retaliation would have prevented these kind of attacks
....i not asking to take pre emptive strikes atleast cant we retaliate when our blood is spilled .

this validates the point that your approach to this terroist attack have failed miserably and we need to explore the other ways to tackle this problem

what are those steps ??pls elucidate us (no sarcasm indented)

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stone_cold

I dont knw if we can rule out ISI's involvement in organizing this attack, it could very well be a political ploy to distant themselves from our internal conflict and shed their jehadi sympathizer tag, politically if not literally. Afterall we all seen their commitment to war against terror.

Recent changes in pakistan's stance on kashmir issue and hardline seperatist leaders having a sudden change of heart after last pakistan visit seem all pretty suspicious to me. Maybe they realized they cant push their agenda on providing diplomatic and political support to militant groups so they're being more innovative this time. Not just this renders them virtually immune to accussations of supporting terrorist groups it provides a perfect cover to carry out more terrorist acts.