Ray

Iran has the capability to build a nuke.

Has the world got the ability to stop it?

If so, what are those?

Esoteric rumination is not the answer.

What can be done to stop them, without sparking a nuclear holocaust!

There has been enough of intellectual discussions.

What is the practical answer?

My posts are in no way advocating that they go ahead and become another nuclear nation. No chance.

But what I am seeking is an answer - a practical answer - to stop them.

No one is misinformed and no one is ready to buy propaganda that scares.

Let us have courage. Remember Patton said, "Courage is nothing but keeping a tight Arseho-le, so that the brains don't fall out"!

Yet, all know they are dangerously poised to become a nuke nation.

They have to be stopped.

How?

That is the question!

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Iran has the capability to build a nuke.

Has the world got the ability to stop it?

If so, what are those?

Esoteric rumination is not the answer.

What can be done to stop them, without sparking a nuclear holocaust!

There has been enough of intellectual discussions.

What is the practical answer?

My posts are in no way advocating that they go ahead and become another nuclear nation. No chance.

But what I am seeking is an answer - a practical answer - to stop them.

No one is misinformed and no one is ready to buy propaganda that scares.

Let us have courage. Remember Patton said, "Courage is nothing but keeping a tight Arseho-le, so that the brains don't fall out"!

Yet, all know they are dangerously poised to become a nuke nation.

They have to be stopped.

How?

That is the question!



I have not learned as yet Iran actually has the capacity to build a nuke. True they are very close. Much to close for world to feel all fuzzy and warm. Please update us Ray.

Excellent questions of the day you have asked Ray. Let the dialog began.

There are only two factors controlling the choices on how Iran is to be stopped from their nuke quest.

The first is to understand it is a quest of the current Mulier based government (with its President Ahmadinejad's "Apocalypse Now" theology) for the return of its Iman spiritual leader who is allegedly a bloodline relative of the prophet Muhammad. In short he has volunteered all he leads to become the equivalent to "Kaman quasi Pilots." They all die to make the cause just.

In order for Iran's Mulier based government to stay in authority they fully realize they must turn their long sort after nuclear quest into a reality very soon or the generation born after the revolution, 1979, approx. sixty percent of the population, is going to replace this Mulier type of governmental power by sheer popular numbers. The reasons for this are much to numerous to list here. In its place they will seek a government which is more in moderation with democracy and the Sunni side of the middle east including better international relations.

The second question/factor is does time permit a wait for the Iranian people to take over. I would think not.

I would suggest reading >>>>>> Amazon.com: Iran: The Coming Crisis: Radical Islam, Oil, and the Nuclear Threat: Books: Mark Hitchcock

The recent military quests sought by the Iraq Shiite are much in line with the immediate mulier aims of Iran. They would like to think the Iran backed Shiite have just begun to fight their fight for their Iraq. The Iraq Shiite fight does not have to go for a victory only for a holding action to satisfy Iran's aims of buying more time. to fully develop its nuclear weapons ambitions.

Why their is a chance of nuclear holocaust is beyond me as Iran to date does not have the nuke. Will a third nuclear powers get involved is beyond me? I rather see they have little to gain by doing so.

The other question to be asked here is what if Iran IS NOT not stoped from getting nuclear weapons. Will it then use them on Isreal? Or will it pass it out to its other gang members for them to use. Best we not chance this one for soon after they will attempting to land them here even if only by useing a just off shore ship to deliver just a couple. That is a huge "Just".

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Yet, all know they are dangerously poised to become a nuke nation.
They have to be stopped.
How?
That is the question!

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Given the premise that the majority of the people of Iran cannot overthrow their government and stop these nuclear ambitions, then the only other options to stop them is by bribe or resolution or military force.

The Bribe was last tried by President Clinton just before he left office for the sake of the buck. May I remind the reader of Clinton's 165 million dollar library (tongue in cheek). Let the reader be aware. See >>>>>>
Amazon.com: Countdown to Crisis: The Coming Nuclear Showdown with Iran: Books: Kenneth R. Timmerman

Finally The voting five, China, Russia, France, England, and the USA at the UN agreed and signed a resolution Iran must stop it attempts for nuclear weapons. The five backed it up with more sanctions against free trade, froze more bank accounts, and restricted international travel for a small handful or Iran officials. (They have to buy their chocolate from Switzerland instead of Hershey) Sanctions have not worked effectively in the past, nor do I see sanctions giving the desired result now. This resolution has no real punch behind it, lip service.

Another facts is Russia, China, France, and many other countries, were major contributors to not just Iran's Nuclear build up plans and have fully suported them but are also contributors to Iran's missile delivery systems. Now the USA and our Allies cannot expect those same countries to participate in a military action to stop Iranian nuclear capability. As yet, they have not connected the dots.

Thus we have determined >>>>>> Iran has To be stopped. Just how Is the question? Equally important is when - Now .

First lets establish a premise that neither we nor Israel is going to use atomic weapons of any type in our actions against Iran. This includes limited nuke bunker busters.

If forces outside of Israel do not stop Iran then it is a sure bet Israel will slow down Iran considerably with Air strikes on nuke mines, manufacturer and weapon sites.

We have no choice but to allow ourselves "just a little more time" to be much better set for a military strike to take out at the least Iran's nuclear ability. Furthermore let us presume we muster up, including some allies, a military force at least equal to "Desert Storm" to do so. Should we allow to much time to elapse putting this together Iraq's nukes would have the perfect target for their first nuke - - Right in the middle of all our forces? Time is of the essence. We did not choose this timing Iran has forced it upon us. Should we be attacked in the middle east by Iran after taking out their nuke site, all the better, for we are the worlds best when it comes to conventional warfare?

My educated guess is if we kick in the front door to Iran's Mulier based government and nuclear ambitions, the whole mess will just collapse. When the educated, rights removed, younger people or Iran, sixty percent, learn they will have to spend billions more to keep the not so popular muliers in power and again build more nukes they likely will bring about revolt. Remember please the average Iranian makes less then a dollar a day. Most of the support of the Hamas and Hezbollah will dissipate. This is very important. The real question is not jsut stopping Iran or how, it is rather when. NOW - not later.

The "Apocalypse Now" theology of the muliers who supposedly have the only direct contact with Allah, god, will become more fictional. Gods ability to allow rational communications by way of the Internet between people is much greater then the muliers actions to stimate thinking.

IF Reagan was president there is little doubt what he would be doing. I'd like to think the same of President Bush.

I would welcome all other so called practical answers.


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