Ray

How many would appreciate anything that brings the Enemy at the Gates?

Cut the nose to spite the Face!

When will people learn?

And if they don't want to, then why go berserk over this silly game of "War on Terror", which in any case, is bogus!

Or is it a ploy to ensure that create a scare and ensure a comfortable tenure without opposition, since it could always be debunked as treacherous!

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I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

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SRB

Ironduke ask you friend why theh two colons of Albanians return to Kosovo from Albania during bombing one of those colons were bomb by NATO killing 100 civilians. If we force them to leave why they were returning to Kosovo which was under our control.

And you will see in couple of years Big Albania I very sure about that. Today they are talking they want only Kosovo. But in 1968 they want only autonomy of Kosovo in 1981 they talk they want only Kosovo republic in SFRJ and in 1990 they talk they want independent Kosovo.

If I say you that I saw aliens you will belive me right? But if I give you some normal story which is similar with what you saw on TV then you will belive me.
And Serb problem with Croats is about orientation or religion. It is about WW2 and what happen to Serbs in Croatia during WW2.

Danielk

You can say the same thing about what serbs did to croatians..

SRB

In WW2?
Right Serbs build JASENOVAC (conc. camp in Croatia primary for Serbs).
Dont get me wrong I dont hate Croatians and I know couple of Croats and they are excellent people, but people form Croatia remember what was done by USTASA in WW2 and I know that you will try to say that Serbs had CETNIKE(to me it is much better compare USTASE end LJOTICEVCE) but Serbia was occupy and we didnt had racial law which was law of NDH(Croatia during WW2).

And Blajburg was war crime and I really sorry why that happen but Sebs arent responsible of that massacre because Tito and other generals order it to me it was inter-croatian slaughter beacuse large number of Croatian fight in PARTIZAN and their families were target of USTASA.

Officer of Engineers

Now, that is just plain untrue. A simple google tells you that they've started their insurrection in 1995.

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kNikS

Good. I'm 23, law student and I know more than enough people who are refugees since '99.... not briefly I guess.

This is a typical overinflated BS, and not that I would expect anything different from Albanian. Millitary was well out of all that, nvm in charge, and in no way that such "detachments" were operating at that scale in organized manner. And, of course, he didn't mentioned Serbs that are dead or missing... few thousands just after the NATO arrival.

Well, refugees were settled there even before, and guess what, they were cleansed twice.

They sure don't complain about that...

Yes, he was also in Medak pocket, in charge for war crimes... and he isn't a general. And.. such person is a prime minister now.

Peacefull herbivores, I see.

Well.. I don't se how is this relevant, but ok.

There was none? So what killed those people then?

I believe from what I know in person, or what I have been told first hand, that Serbs are the only nation in ex-Yu that admitted their crimes. All others just refuse to do so, and continue to point at us. Just look at the Bosniaks and the court decision on their charge against Serbia.

He did? So there's no problem wiith Greater Croatia and Greater Albania..?

Good luck with that.

They don't even need to do it formally...

It is? Anyway, presence of Serbs that aren't going to live in independant Kosovo isn't.

Gee.. he has his on statistics... Where are the terrorists in it? Anyway, there are three types of Albanians - those who are actually war criminals, those who were just terrorists and those who support them.

For every other ethnic group in former Yugoslavia, I repeat - every other, I have some respect. Croats and Slovenians in particular, even for Bosnian Muslims. But not for them, simply because I didn't met one that is able/willing to admit things that his side was/is doing.

I'll quote myself.. and end this since I'm tired of explaining stuff to people that don't want to understand it (not talking about you, just in general).

To sum it up, our way of dealing with that kind was to shell them till they piss blood they spilled mixed with their mother’s milk, and to overrun them after that. Those who were innocent were free to get out of the way. Most of them did, some of them didn’t. Too bad, but there was war out there and they knew it very well - it was their side that started it.

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kNikS

I'm sending you a PM.

Danielk

You cant seriously say one is better then eachother..Both sides did wrong things, murdered,tortured people etc,

Then you had Greater Serbian-aggression, NDH had its fascist ustasha order introduced from Italy and Germany, Not in croatia.

The mass crimes against the Croats and Muslim Slavs committed by the Serbian chetnik movement was cruel, so was the ustasa, i dont like either nor do i support them.

Serbs, croats and bosnians will always be weak and seen as the balkans because we cant get along…we would all be better off if we got rid of nationalism and pride which has been enslaving us for the last 100 yrs. why do you people think America is called USA? because the states are united and they know what together they are a world superpower but alone they are not good …the balkans are all craP because we would rather be devided and ruled by either the nazis, fashists or russians then ourselves. Sadly its the truth,

kNikS

Jesus Christ you had a concentration camps. Anything is better than that.

Aggression? Just watch what the court will say.

So what's you point?

There were no mass crimes commited by the Serbian Chetnik movement. Sporadic and isolated maybe, (not even close what happened now to say so), but that's it.

Anyway, Serbs and Croats are done with hostilities, as far Serbs are concerned. Leave it at that.

Vlad95

Ironduke, you can be anti-serb all you want, your choice. But if you seriously think that bosnia/kosovo/albania are not islamic terrorist lairs in EU...you should think twice.

"The majority of Kosovars also don't want to unite with Albania. Though related to Albanians ethnically, there are rather distinct from one another. And again, Kosovars are secular in their worldview, and very non-religious."

Are you serious ?

MrFirst

Yes, they are non-religious. After Kosovar "freedom-fighters" came to power in Kosovo, some thousand of people of Adyghe nation were forced to leave this territory and move to their historical motherland in Northern Caucasus. They are muslims and they appeared in Kosovo after one of Russian-Turkish wars, escaping from Russian empire power. Nevertheless in 1999 they were to come back to Russia, having preferred not to live under the Albanians and to "enjoy equality" with them. Eloquent fact.

Danielk

Dude, Serbia still commited mass killings,ethnic cleansing and what not, its true croatia had concentration camps, but still no excuse to say one side did more killing then the other, either way killing is killing.

What do you mean? Of course you will denie there was any aggression, the truth is there was greater Serbian crimes in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

IMO serbia deserved to get bombed by NATO.



Oh rubbish, how can you say there were no mass crimes against the Croats and Muslim Slavs by the Serbian Chetnik Movement, you must not be getting your facts rights me thinks..



Yea true that, the war happend over a decade ago,its over.

kNikS

What, in WW2? Or now? In WWII you were the aggressor, and now.. well I prefer to see the court decision...

Sure, killing is killing , but what you did in Jasenovac it's like orders of magnitude more than anything seen in ex-Yu.

I mean read the freaking newspapers, Serbia is free from charges on genocide and all other BS...

Good for you.

What you think is of no concern to me. You are the one who is talking out of your asss, since mass crimes you are mentioning exist only in ustasha's version of history.

Vlad95

So the bombing of public buildings such as schools, hospitals, TV stations and bridges with civilians on it was deserved ? I thought you said you hated killing...

Whats Jihad and why was it called upon in Kosovo ? Thats also a fact my friend.

SRB

This story of secular Albanians is excellent joke. For god sake they still have vendetta and live in family tribes. They treat women as breed machines in fact they are buying them, they have arranged marriage as common thing. Maybe youngsters are different but they are still students and it will be 10 or 20 years when they became important politics.

Bin Laden was in visit to Albania before 1998 (maybe I am wrong) and his fighters fight on Kosovo and were they come they not leave.

On south of Serbia muslims have big problems with wahhabis and local muslims say that major camp is on Kosovo.

P.S. Danielk if we expel Blajburg what else can compre to Jasenovac, if we use numbers of croatian historians which say that JASENOVAC took 100.000 Serbian lifes.

If we use works of modern serbian historians, they estimate JASENOVAC Serbian victim around 400.000. Our historians use same analysis done in '60 but multiply with 4 because analysis only count victims for which someone from family could confirm and many time whole family was wiped in JASENOVAC also we use demographic data and German high command estimate of civilian casualties in Croatia because those german date point mostly on Serb civilians because until Blajburg there were small number of killed croatian civilians. Cetniks were brutal but never efficient because they werent under central control in fact in Serbia Ljoticevci were much more efficient.