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01-04-2007, 17:13 PM
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9/11 - a new perspective
Don't worry. No conspiracy theories. Well yes. "The Jews did it", the Middle East say. Memri.org released a new documentary a couple of month ago. It is about the Arab and Iranian reaction to the attacks. The film is 43 minutes long. I'd like to hear your thoughts...
http://www.memrifilms.org/
U.S Department of State about the Jews, that died on 911: http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archiv...14-260933.html
Last edited by SilleEllis : 01-04-2007 at 23:16 PM.
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01-05-2007, 22:47 PM
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Official US government information from this homepage: http://usinfo.state.gov/
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The 4,000 Jews Rumor
Rumor surrounding Sept. 11th proved untrue
Shortly after September 11, 2001, false rumors began to circulate claiming that 4,000 Jews, or 4,000 Israelis, had failed to report for work at the World Trade Center (WTC) on 9/11, supposedly because they had been warned to stay away by Israeli secret services, which were allegedly responsible for the attack. The claim is totally false.
In a videotape broadcast on October 30, 2004, Osama bin Laden unequivocally admitted that he and al Qaeda had planned and directed the September 11 attacks. He stated, "I shall talk to you about the story behind those events [the September 11 attacks] and shall tell you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken ...." He confirmed his direction of the details of operational planning, stating, "for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Atta ... that all operations should be carried out within twenty minutes, before Bush and his administration notice."
Moreover, in a videotape made in November 2001 and captured by U.S. forces in Afghanistan, statements by Osama bin Laden made it clear that he planned the attacks:
"[W]e calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy, who would be killed based on the position of the tower. We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four floors. I was the most optimistic of them all. (...Inaudible...) due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only. ...We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day."
Vague conspiracy theories blaming Israel began to appear within 24 hours of the attacks. Syria's government-owned Al Thawra newspaper may have been the first newspaper to make the "4,000 Jews" claim. According to U.S. embassy reporting, its September 15th edition falsely claimed "four thousand Jews were absent from their work on the day of the explosions."
The 4,000 figure apparently came from an article entitled "Hundreds of Israelis missing in WTC attack" which appeared in the September 12th internet edition of the Jerusalem Post. It stated, "The Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem has so far received the names of 4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attacks."
Unknown conspiracy theorists apparently seized upon the 4,000 figure, transforming it into the false claim that 4,000 Jews did not report for work at the World Trade Center on September 11.
A total of 2,071 occupants of the World Trade Center died on September 11, among the 2,749 victims of the WTC attacks. According to an article in the October 11, 2001, Wall Street Journal, roughly 1,700 people had listed the religion of a person missing in the WTC attacks; approximately 10% were Jewish. A later article, in the September 5, 2002, Jewish Week, states, "based on the list of names, biographical information compiled by The New York Times, and information from records at the Medical Examiner's Office, there were at least 400 victims either confirmed or strongly believed to be Jewish." This would be approximately 15% of the total victims of the WTC attacks. A partial list of 390 Cantor Fitzgerald employees who died (out of 658 in the company) lists 49 Jewish memorial services, which is between 12% and 13%.
This 10-15% estimate of Jewish fatalities tracks closely with the percentage of Jews living in the New York area. According to the 2002 American Jewish Year Book, 9% of the population of New York State, where 64% of the WTC victims lived, is Jewish. A 2002 study estimated that New York City's population was 12% Jewish. Forty-three percent of the WTC victims lived in New York City. Thus, the number of Jewish victims correlates very closely with the number of Jewish residents in New York. If 4,000 Jews had not reported for work on September 11, the number of Jewish victims would have been much lower than 10-15%.
The following partial list of 76 Jewish World Trade Center victims includes many from companies that were located at or above where the planes hit. These include Cantor Fitzgerald, which lost 658 employees, Marsh & McLellan, which lost 295 employees, Aon Corporation, which lost 176 employees, and others.
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Link to the list: http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archiv...14-260933.html
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01-05-2007, 23:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SilleEllis
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I used to work for Aon Corp.
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01-05-2007, 23:14 PM
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I used to work for Aon Corp.
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 Oh dear. I hope, you didn't know any of all those people, who lost their lives in that terrible terrorist act. But you can be-witness or testify to the fact, that this Middle East rumor is wrong, then.  I hope, you didn't work in New York...
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01-06-2007, 21:54 PM
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Kewl, thanks for the link.
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