gilgamesh

Once a fcukwit(in the planning commission), a certified fcukwit for life!

This sh!t for brains doesn't deserve the accolades he gets and for all I care he can stuff his Oxford doctorate up his poopchute! Dirty Matherchod!:


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...how/291531.cms

NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Thursday favoured a "fair share" for minorities in central and state government as well as private sector jobs.

Singh, who maintained that the nation "does not belong to any single race", also said young people from minority communities should be provided with skills required for employment. "It is essential that communal peace and harmony should be maintained and the minorities get a fair share in central and state government and private sector jobs," he told a conference of state minorities commissions here.

Also, he said state chief ministers have been asked to put in place a monitoring mechanism over implementation of minority welfare schemes.

The Prime Minister, who pointed out that a lack of access to common school system was the main factor behind the socio-economic backwardness of minority communities, said the government should work to ensure greater access for Muslim girls to professional education. "During the current plan period and the next plan period, we must ensure that concrete schemes for setting up of secondary and higher-secondary schools in blocks and districts having predominantly Muslim population are implemented for the Muslim girls," he remarked.

Widening access for Muslim women to professional education, particularly to medical and engineering courses, should be a priority area of educational programmes, Singh added. "This nation does not belong to any single race, least of all any group of religious extremists.

It belongs to a mosaic of religiously, linguistically and culturally varied communities," the Prime Minister remarked.

gilgamesh

Your govt at work...

Sachar panel mulls Muslim quota

Diptosh Majumdar
CNN-IBN

The panel says the non-OBC Muslim is in more degraded condition than Hindu OBC.


New Delhi: The Justice Rajendra Sachar Panel report on the social, economic and educational status of Indian Muslims makes a strong case for reservation for Muslims.


CNN-IBN has exclusive access to the recommendations made by the panel, which suggest that the economic status of Muslims was below that of OBcs and in some instances, even dalits.


The Indian Express was the first newspaper to publish the data-based findings of the Sachar Panel.


The panel says madrassa education is not the future and suggests setting up of more English and Urdu-medium government schools in Muslim-dominated areas. It also argues in favour of allocating 15 per cent of funds from different Union Ministries for the welfare of the Muslims.


The panel has also recommended more representation for Muslims in sectors like healthcare and teaching, and sensitisation of all government employees towards the requirements of the community.


The panel, which was appointed by the Prime Minister, will be submitting its report by the middle of this month.


The big issue emerging from the report is reservation for Muslims. While the Sachar panel avoids any reference to it, its silence is more than eloquent in a chapter on the OBCs. In this chapter, the general non-OBC Muslim is shown to be living in more degraded condition than the Hindu OBC. This, experts say, makes a strong case for reservation for the entire Muslim community, barring the Creamy Layer.


Insiders in the Sachar Panel have told CNN-IBN that there is a way to introduce the recommendations. Muslim intellectuals are of the opinion that out of the 27 per cent reservations for OBCs, at least 10 per cent should be reserved for Muslims (except the Creamy Layer). However, this recommendation has not made it to the final report of the panel.


Recommendations of Sachar Panel
Some key highlights of the recommendations are:
Sachar panel finds that madrassa education is not the future. It wants more English and Urdu medium government schools in areas dominated by Muslims.
It also argues in favour of allocating 15 per cent of all Government funds to Muslims under all central schemes.
The panel wants more representation for Muslims in sectors like health and teaching.
It also recommends sensitisation of all government employees towards Muslim requirements.
But the big issue is reservation for Muslims. While Sachar panel avoids any reference to it, its silence is more than eloquent in a chapter on OBCs.
In this chapter, the general non-OBC Muslim is shown to be living in more degraded condition than the Hindu OBC.
Thereby a strong case is made for reservations for the entire Muslim community except the Creamy Layer.



Minority benefits not trickling down: PM


With a nationwide debate on the status of Muslims gaining momentum, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Thursday made several observations on the problems faced by the minority community.


"Available evidence shows that benefits of the schemes meant for the minorities are not reaching out to the Muslim sector," Manmohan Singh said.

And here's the fcuking link...

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/sachar-p...s/25258-3.html

Tronic

uhhh.... this guy is just living up with the fked upo tradition; he's not the one whose just starting to implement it...

its the private sector jobs which is the scary part if they're run by people who are chosen because of their low-caste rather then their skill...

Although I do totally agree with this point, common access to schooling should be provided for all poor people, not just Muslim girls... I don't see how they're any different from the rest of the people...

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gilgamesh

Welcome to brave new world that is India, Tronic. I really feel for your generation. Budda matherchods are out to get you guys by the b@lls.

667medic

Can't blame him man. It's the latest fad of the Kangrass dogs, what can he do

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Tronic

Why blame Congress??? BJP held power for several years and they didn't do anything about Quotas and Reservations either... Its not only the Congress, all parties are run by idiots, even the BJP (which right now is under that Advani dumbass). BJP is not the slightest bit better the Congress. All of the political system needs a revamp.

Samudra

Excuse me chaps, I got a problem with you guys if you're going to insist on a blanket ban on reservations.

I'm all for reservations for the SC/ST Communities. Those people will go nowhere without the reservations, scholarships and other facilities. What the government is doing for them at this moment is certainly not adequate. Taking away reservations from them would be a disaster.

Now, coming to the OBC class - I do not think they need reservations. Yet some of castes belonging to OBC sections are in a terrible state even today. Especially in rural areas and states like Orissa. So some kind of criteria has to worked out to decide if the candidate requires a seat/job under reservation.

Gentlemen, the SC/ST community has done so much for our society. None of us would clean toilets, empty sewage tanks and work 12 hours in the farm generation after generation with less than adequate wages. Oh and dont forget the untouchablitiy factor.

Nothing bad will befall upon this society if the sons and daughters of SC/STs are given an opportunity.It is in these people will India Shine!

So no, dont criticise reservations as a whole. As for reservation for Moslems, I still do not think it will come around. The SC is around.

Tronic

See, I do agree that these folks have to be helped, but giving them jobs over people who are more qualified then them???

Quotas and Reservations do nothing for sociey except put less-qualified people in power!!! That is, if you think with a clear mind, one of the most idiotic decisions that have been made. These people have to be helped but they shouldn't be given jobs and seats even though they are less-skilled. What the government should do rather is to try to increase AID to them to help them get those crucial skills rather then giving them out jobs which could've been handled by more qualified people. If the "seats by caste" theory was used in the army, realize what a disastor that would be.

The solution to the problem is for the government to subsidize the education for low-income families, open up schools for the poor people and other facilities where they can actually grow those skills as required and then be able to compete for the seats like the rest. That is a much better way then handing over the seats because they come from a poor background.

Again, I am not against helping the poor people but reservations are harming others while benefitting some. Just because of some people's handicaps, other people should not be punished; the government should rather work towards building the proper facilities for the poor so they can grow their skills rather then hand them out seats despite other people being more fit then them.

Samudra

If you're talking about the marks scored in examinations and degrees as 'qualifications' then, no there is no problem giving SC/ST people jobs over people who are more qualified than them.

Do you want me to show you a educated fool and an uneducated business tycoon ?

How do you define "skill" ? If the competency of their work is any indicator then is it not obvious that the most incompetent Indians out there are running our government today ?

Well, actually the SC/ST people are more fit and enduring than other castes. I guess they will only do better.

Seriously, ask what regiment the Brigadier belongs to.

etc etc etc.
I'd love to see somebody who opposes reservations to actually go out and work it out for the benefit of the oppressed.

Reality : Reservation is just one of the tools. Considering that many dalit kids are 'not allowed' to go to schools or even wear footwear in many a villages in India I think reservations for SC/STs ought to stay. I do not know about other states but here in TN education is free upto +2.

Jay

Good one Samudra, I'll say it again, reservations for SC/ST is a necessary evil, its going to stay and learn to live with it.

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Tronic

That logic does not make sense... With that logic, uneducated people should be running the world...


Government is mostly run by criminals.... SCs or non-SCs; they're all the same.....


We'll never know that for sure... they didn't compete with the rest of India...

As for the army; best men for the job... just the way it should be. Favouritism by Caste WOULD be a disastor for the army, not because the people chosen are incompetent but simply because they were chosen over people who could've probably done the job better. Army style is much better, everybody competes, so even if SCs/OBCs take your spot in recruitment, you go home knowing that the best man for the job was taken; there is much more satisfaction sleeping on that then knowing that you could've probably made the cut but got cut-off to a SC/OBC simply because your caste wasn't "low enough".

We pay taxes and the government has the full right to use those taxes for the poor. We don't give taxes so that our jobs can be taken away from us and given to the poor...

Yup, that is the reality. Its like we live in a Dalit run country; so I guess we'll just be oppressed by them. One reason, America and other Western countries start shining much brighter then India...

In Punjab you have to pay for your education from start to finish. It's like that in most North Indian states.

Jay

No, the whole point of having the reservations is to make sure that a batter part of India gets their education.
Bapus and Nethas are all alike, doesnt matter whether they are first class, high class or third class.
Very subjective, they cannot compete against rest of India, thats why we gave them reservations.
You are kidding me right? Go check the age limit for SC/ST's and non SC/ST's in Army recruitment. Bah, you'll be in for a rude shock.
Ive said it before, no point in bickering about your caste, I give my full support to reservation. I agree its not the perfect way to do it, but right now its the only way for these people to come up.
The govt gives reservation so the poor has a chance to compete, if you keep on give handouts to them like you suggest, the poor and illeterate will remain so.
You dont have a clue on what you are talking. USA has its own positive discrimination.
Then go fight with your govt, not the system.

Ray

What is Puddi?

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"Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

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Jay

Sir,
May be its a cuss word, tronic or LT can brief you better

gilgamesh

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=puddi

Anyways, I tried changing the title. I originally wanted to use Punjab da Puttar, but Medic often refers to Tronic as such, so the alternative.