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Old 06-20-2004, 10:32 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Is that what I said? Read what I write and not extra, you liberals have a real tendancy to add extra to everything anyone says.

Where did I say that you said that?

Since your statement "Is that one of your unbiased "mainstream" news services?" showed skpeticism about the news source, I conjectured if you thought if the news was fake.

You could have answered or no.
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Old 06-20-2004, 10:44 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Last time I checked the citizens bought the power, not the state of California.
I don't think you checked last time otherwise you would not be making such uninformed statement!

Yes the citizens/enduser/consumers bought power and paid higher prices, but State of California also bought power for its grid. Ulitimately ofcourse it was California's taxpayers money.

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And no they should not be in Jail. The politicians who proposed and passed the so called deregulation bill which is nothing more then a new set of debilitating regulations should be in jail.
Do you know price gouging is crime? These companies when they artificially created a crisis and then gouged their consumers they committed a criminal act. Do you understand this concept?

Or are you saying that corporate criminals are above law?

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Get the god damn Government out of our god damn lives.
Ever thought of moving to Alaska?
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Old 06-20-2004, 11:00 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Plants are the best way to convert the suns energy.

Nature came up with the best one, and man has yet to top it and I doubt it ever will.

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Old 06-20-2004, 11:15 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Where did I say that you said that?
Said what?
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Since your statement "Is that one of your unbiased "mainstream" news services?" showed skpeticism about the news source, I conjectured if you thought if the news was fake.
Do you speak English? What words in "Is that one of your unbiased "mainstream" news services?" do you not understand? Is COPLEY NEWS SERVICE mainstream? Is COPLEY NEWS SERVICE unbiased? Duh... You are the "mainstream" is allways right, they never spin the news appologist, so why then is this not from something more "mainstream"?
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Old 06-20-2004, 11:22 AM   #50 (permalink)
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I don't think you checked last time otherwise you would not be making such uninformed statement!

Yes the citizens/enduser/consumers bought power and paid higher prices, but State of California also bought power for its grid. Ulitimately ofcourse it was California's taxpayers money.
Congratulations, so I didn't realize California was such a Cluster **** of a Socialist Nightmare.


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Do you know price gouging is crime? These companies when they artificially created a crisis and then gouged their consumers they committed a criminal act. Do you understand this concept?

Or are you saying that corporate criminals are above law?

Ever thought of moving to Alaska?
"Price Gouging" is a crime but it should not be. It violates no one's rights.

They did not artificially create a crises, there were real power shortages caused by left wing politicians in the California state senate. I already explained to you how it was caused but you continue to shout your anti-capitalist non-sense.

Guess what happens when you loose power stations and you have to provide more power then before you lost it. There are shortages!!!

The only way to stop this is to raise prices to decrease demand but the so called "de"regulation bill put a cap on how much they could charge, making this impossible.

So guess what if they are required by law to provide service to everyone, then there will have to be blackouts because there is only so much power being produced.
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Old 06-20-2004, 17:22 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Plants are the best way to convert the suns energy.

Nature came up with the best one, and man has yet to top it and I doubt it ever will.

Thanks Mom
So you want to grow pot? LOL
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Old 06-20-2004, 17:48 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Plants are the best way to convert the suns energy.

Nature came up with the best one, and man has yet to top it and I doubt it ever will.

Thanks Mom
Allow the building of more Nuclear Reactors and Hydroelectric dams then there will be no need to grow Hemp.

Hemp is not a realistic feul source.

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Old 06-20-2004, 19:38 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Hemp is not a realistic feul source.
It's amazing that this needs to be stated.
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Old 06-20-2004, 21:17 PM   #54 (permalink)
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It's amazing that this needs to be stated.
You guys are going to make him sad or mad...
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Old 06-21-2004, 00:11 AM   #55 (permalink)
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You guys are going to make him sad or mad...
I'm going to go with the latter. He seems like a rather angry individual.
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Old 06-21-2004, 16:07 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Actually soy and hemp are damn good and your stupid asses should know that by now.

Here is an expirement to see if vegetable oil is good energy source.

Put vegetable oil in a frying pan turn the burner on high.

Stand on your drive way and call the fire department.

Try it and find out why.

Or what does your body use to make energy.

I said plants not hemp.

Oh dumb ****s as the United States Government makes very clear hemp and pot are not the same thing.

Your dams destroy the environment. The environment that let life evolve to allow you to exist. If you do not think it would be a good thing to preserve life then kill it. Kill it all including yourself.

Chernobyl.

Have you seen the film "The Day After Tommorow" if man continues with his ignorant ways that will be our future and our demise.

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Why so?

Do you have a problem with soybeans?
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Old 06-21-2004, 16:20 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Actually soy and hemp are damn good and your stupid asses should know that by now.
See he's very angry. Maybe he'll take it out on himself.

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Here is an expirement to see if vegetable oil is good energy source.

Put vegetable oil in a frying pan turn the burner on high.

Stand on your drive way and call the fire department.

Try it and find out why.
LOL why don't you?

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Or what does your body use to make energy.
Your argument is illogical the human bady is not a car.

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I said plants not hemp.
"Marijuana Tax Act" You’re the one that brought pot up. Maybe you should go smoke some. It would make you relax a little.

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Oh dumb ****s as the United States Government makes very clear hemp and pot are not the same thing.


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Your dams destroy the environment.


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The environment that let life evolve to allow you to exist. If you do not think it would be a good thing to preserve life then kill it. Kill it all including yourself.
This is you: LOL

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Have you seen the film "The Day After Tommorow" if man continues with his ignorant ways that will be our future and our demise.
That movie isn't even based on science. Even the people made it said that.
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See he's very angry. Maybe he'll take it out on himself.
Yep! You were right! I don't think he understands how bad it is for the enviornment to grow and process crops, let alone burn the result! It's bad enough we have to grow them to eat.
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Why so?

Do you have a problem with soybeans?
It would cause property prices to sky rocket. There is not enough land to grow even close to enough feul.
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It would cause property prices to sky rocket. There is not enough land to grow even close to enough feul.
Can we have some stats on that please?

Cars will happily run (with some adjustment) on vegetable oil. So the power output isn't an issue.

Yield might be an issue, but unless you know a quick way of crushing and processing dinosaurs vegetable based oils are likely to be a better long term solution than any other oil based solution.
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