publisher

Dear friends,

Throughout history, human society has suffered from terrorism, violence, and extremism. This suffering has increased in this day and age, causing physical and moral damage to many communities and culminating in an international phenomenon which preoccupies the mind and causes concern to everyone seeking peace, security and stability.

Islam, undoubtedly, has a clear stand on terrorism, violence, and extremism and on their causes as it abhors such phenomena and combats them, calling for cooperation with others to protect mankind from their dangers and consequences. Given its complex nature, terrorism requires scientific investigation which addresses its roots, causes, consequences and the ways to combat it.

In order to clarify the position of Islam on these phenomena and to expound its moderations, goodness and call for dialogue, the idea arose to hold a conference entitled ‘The Stand of Islam on Terrorism, Violence, and Extremism’ at Al-Imam Muhammad Ibn Saud University.


To surf the site of the conference:

http://www.islamstand.org/english/index.htm

For correspondence and inquiries:

E-Mail: peace2@islamstand.org


Regards,
Electronic publisher.

Ray

Publisher,

Have you read the Koran?

Its quite a document.

It says Death to the Infidel. That is what Jihad is all about.

With such a stement, will there be Peace?

If so, a funny type of Peace I must say.

Are you aware that what is written in the Koran is inviolate or NOT open to interpretation? No one can interpret it. Dont you know that?
So, dont give us BS.

I would on the other hand also state that legitimate aspirations of Ilsamic states should be honoured. They are also the creation of God. They also have a right to live by their way of choosing so long as it does not impinge on others.

Publsiher,

Whats get my goat is people conning others. Even if the logic is flawed, stand by it. Don't be an apologist and pull wool over the eyes.

What the fundamentalists are doing is damned wrong. If you want the world to be with you, stop supporting them with madrassas and money and weapons. That would be a better thing to do than pulling wool. The Koran is quite clear on the subject. Ask Major Armstrong, who is a member of this Board, to give you the link to what Islam is all about.

I went to this link and wow I was shaken! And those chaps there quote with authority and paras about the Koran to justify what they say! Its scary.

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I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

HAKUNA MATATA

Confed999

Then prove it, join with the US in fighting it, or forever be seen as it's supporters.

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Praxus

A Government based on Islamic law by it's very nature impinges on others.

Ray

Technically you are right. Islam is not open to interpretation from the edicts of their Koran.

Yet, I am hoping that maybe some enlightened Moslem person of some standing can open a window.....maybe if only a small window, wherein they don't impinge on others their dogmas.

Jay

I have had this discussion with couple of my Karachi friends.They normally say that if you are so called believer (muslim) then you have the spread the word, its like in Christianity. So as Praxus said, they will force their beliefs upon others. They believe in one and only, the law of Koran, so I dont know if its even feasible for a country entirely based on Shariat.

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Major_Armstrong

The royal family in Saudi Arabia seems to be against terrorism. Saudi Arabia has been a victim of it, too, eg. bombings in Riyhad, etc. The problem as I see it is that they are stuck with the Islamic system in their country. The royal family are generally considered to be apostates by a lot of fundamentalists, especially Al Qaeda. You can divide muslims into fundamentalists and moderates or secular muslims. A lot of fundamentalist (ie. militant extremists) want to overthrow leaders in a various mid east/"Islamic" countries because the leaders are not considered to be true Muslims. One example, is the assassination of Anwar Sadat in Egypt by fundamentalists, also various groups (including Al Qaeda) want to oust Musharraf in Pakistan because he "impedes the spread of Islam" as Zawahiri put it. You can look at some other countries like Turkey and Algeria, for example, which tend to be secular. The Saudis are supposed to be allied with the USA and other western countries. I think the Saudis and others might be trying to reform Islam. Musharraf is planning on new regulations for madrassas and mosques in Pakistan. This appears to be an attempt to reform the Islamic system and/or keep it under control. What else can you do with so many brainwashed religious crazies besides kill them?


See this too:

http://www.freespeech.com/archives/001416.html

visioninthedark

Sir,

I am a Muslim myself ... and by no stretch of the imagination an EXTREMIST ... infact, I find those with long unkempt beards who try to speak "in the name of God" even more disgusting than a rotting filthy animal carcass ...

BUT

I feel that I am obliged to let you know that you are wrong about the above statement you made ...

If you remember ... I provided you with a link of the 73 sects in Islam ... each sect with its beliefs and the reason why it is different from the other sects ...

these sects EXIST BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERING INTERPRETATIONS OF THE QURAN ...

the Quran is the most widely INTERPRETED book that anyone can imagine ... and I think that is the problem ...

you see ... since the majority of Muslims do not recognize an OFFICIAL PRIESTHOOD ...

there is NO SINGLE UNIFORM INTERPRETATION ...

every man can and does INTERPRET THE QURAN as he feels comfortable ...

this lead to the fact that EXTREMISTS INTERPRET THE SAME BOOK TO SUBSTANTIATE THEIR VIOLENCE ... WHILE MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD MUSLIMS INTERPRET THE SAME BOOK TO MEAN PEACE ...

you see ... the EXTREMISTS FIRST form a VIEW in their minds ... and then go looking for verses which can be interpreted so as to give support to their radical thoughts ....

this problem of the hundreds of INTERPRETATIONS of ONE QURAN has lead to the EXTREMISTS calling all other muslims who DO NOT AGREE WITH THEIR INTERPRETATIONS .... as being infidels and should be killed ... according to the extremist point of view ...

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visioninthedark

I would appreciate a response from Ray ... !!!!

Confed999

No religon I know of is open to interpretation. Just because we do it, doesn't mean it's allowed, the fellas that wrote the book made the rules.

Ray

Confed,

The Bible has been interpreted many a time. I am forgetting the name of the book, but it is today's bestseller in the US which states that Jesus was married and other stuff like that which are totally different from the official view.

Vision,

The edicts of the Koran cannot be interpreted as per our Muslims and the Deoband theologists from whom much of the Islamic follower even in your country get the interpretation.

The historical aspect of who shall be the leader of the Islamic faith is what led to Karbala (?) etc. That is the only aspect of difference.

In so far as following as per one's dictates, so long man has a mind of his own, he will do what he wants. But then Islamic society will frown on it. I am sure the Moslems know that many of their religious rules are archaic and yet as a community they can't change it. That is what I understand. Do correct me.

Jay

yep, I have the same doubts. I heard people saying that Koran is not open for interpretations by common folks, but everybody is expected to read/learn Koran. So how would you just read/learn with out interpreating it??

Aryan

I think all religion is evil and sick.

berkut

If people followed religion was it roginally was the world would be a much better place. However it has been corrupted by the same men who claimed to be its most ardent followers and altered to justify their sick personal goals and crimes. Otherwise the teaching of all religions is the same and trully holly.

Jay

Personally, I would say "my" religion is out of discussion. No body has the right to critizize mine, and I wont do the same. It may be evil, it may be sick, but I'm the one who's gonna decide it.

But I can very well say, "my" religion will not force me to kill/trouble/plunder others and will not be used as a govt tool!