Bush Acknowledges Racism Still Exists - Page 2

gunnut · 07-25-2006, 14:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluesman

I never really thought about it. And that's the way it ought to be.

Exactly.

I see this board as mostly conservatives rather than mostly white or Asian or whatever.

**TopHatter** · 07-25-2006, 15:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnut

Here's the interesting thing though. "Negro" was considered an appropriate term a few decades back. We had the "Negro League" of baseball. In fact, we still have the "United Negro College Fund" today. No one has tried to change that name.

Correct, certain older organizations such as the UNCF have retained the word in their name.

The best way I supposed to determine if it's offensive is to use it in a room full of black folks and await a reaction.

Chances are pretty good that you'll get one.

ArmchairGeneral · 07-25-2006, 22:13 PM

My best friend was born in Nigeria, and lived in West Africa for all but one year of his childhood and highschool years. He's half Dutch, half Swiss, and an American citizen, but considers himself African. Is he an African-American?

I've never been outside the US, I don't look very black, and I certainly don't fit the image of the average black American. If slavery were still in force though, I most certainly would be owned by somebody. Am I an African-American?

Dang pc bullcrap.

ArmchairGeneral · 07-25-2006, 22:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RambozoTheClown

not to be racist or anything. as i am myself white...
but isnt this board generally white?

So if I'm the only American with African roots on this board, does that mean I get to be WAB's token brother?

Ray · 07-26-2006, 03:02 AM

Racism is a part of life.

It is best to be indifferent to it......

Or be a master at the language and use syntax that will hit hard and satisy your hurt ego and when the other chap understands what you have said, it will be too late in the day for him!

MIKEMUN · 07-26-2006, 06:50 AM

I am black,I am conservative. Does that mean I am a freak??

Ray · 07-26-2006, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TopHatter

Samovar, you are probably not aware of this, but the term Negro is considered offensive. Please don't use it.

Thank you.

I honestly did not know that it is an offensive word!

Ray · 07-26-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by gunnut

Here's the interesting thing though. "Negro" was considered an appropriate term a few decades back. We had the "Negro League" of baseball. In fact, we still have the "United Negro College Fund" today. No one has tried to change that name.

Then we moved on to use the term "black." Now that's on the way out thanks to Jesse Jackson and his "African American" campaign.

Personally, I try not to use the term "African American" unless I'm describing someone who had just arrived from Africa or has immediate links to Africa. This is a deceiving term and I think a political term aimed at confusing the public.

I have a friend who's Jewish, looks completely white, with parents from Egypt. He's technically "African American." Last time I checked Egypt is still part of Africa. His parents were born in Egypt. That makes him a lot more "African American" than 99% of the blacks in this country.

I have no point in this diatribe. Thank you for not reading. I need to play more computer games, maybe some more exercise as well. I'm getting old and fat.

As per Webster dictionary, Negro means

n.,
pl. -groes [[Sp & Port negro, black, black person < L niger, black]] a member of any of the indigenous, dark-skinned peoples of Africa, living chiefly south of the Sahara, or a person having some African ancestors; a black

gunnut · 07-26-2006, 13:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MIKEMUN

I am black,I am conservative. Does that mean I am a freak??

Not necessarily a freak. More like in the extreme minority since only around 10% of the black population vote conservative.

gunnut · 07-26-2006, 13:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray

As per Webster dictionary, Negro means

n.,
pl. -groes [[Sp & Port negro, black, black person < L niger, black]] a member of any of the indigenous, dark-skinned peoples of Africa, living chiefly south of the Sahara, or a person having some African ancestors; a black

Unfortunately, due to extreme PCness, this term is no longer acceptable in everyday life.

I still refuse to call anyone "African American" unless he or his parents were born in Africa. At most, I will refer to someone as a black American.

Take Tiger Woods for example. His father was born in the US while his mother was born in Thailand. He's more Asian American than African American. I brought this up to my former manager, who is black, and she was very insulted when I called him Asian American.

I have a question. Where do we draw the line? Most African Americans in this country have been here for a few hundred years, probably 7 or 8 generations. Yet they (some, not all) still consider themselves Africans. Here's Tiger Woods, whose mother was Thai born in Thailand, why is he not Asian American?

Let's trace every thing back a few hundred thousand years and we are all Africans. Africa is, after all, the cradle of humanity.

bichler · 07-27-2006, 11:22 AM

i have an american girlfriend from washington dc.

when she visited me, we traveled a lot of the nearby rhine region. we had plenty of fun and nice conversations.

i asked her how to refer to the black american community and what was her wish to be named.

sorry i didnt mention that she is black, had studied in strassbourg france, and her grandmother was the first black schoolprincipal in the state of virginia. her father is a buisnissman and vietnam vetran with a purple hard decorartion.

she said to me, that the black american community is divided on that matter, some wants to be called african american and some see themselfs as black americans.

her personal decision would be neither of both above, but just an american girl.

hope to see her soon

bichler

Ray · 07-27-2006, 13:54 PM

Could Tiger Woods be called Afro Asian American?

ProzacNation · 07-27-2006, 17:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MIKEMUN

I am black,I am conservative. Does that mean I am a freak??

It just might.

I don't understand what Bush was doing pandering to the likes of Julian Bond. That man has put a big black eye himself on the NAACP with all those controversial remarks he makes.

When did Bush ever say that rascism didn't exist anymore? "Acknoweldge"?

07-25-2006, 22:13 PM	#18 (permalink)
ArmchairGeneral Devil's Advocate *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-03-06 Location: The boonies of NC, USA. Posts: 2,884 Country:	My best friend was born in Nigeria, and lived in West Africa for all but one year of his childhood and highschool years. He's half Dutch, half Swiss, and an American citizen, but considers himself African. Is he an African-American? I've never been outside the US, I don't look very black, and I certainly don't fit the image of the average black American. If slavery were still in force though, I most certainly would be owned by somebody. Am I an African-American? Dang pc bullcrap. __________________ "Apocalyptic thought is curiously pleasurable." -Theodore Dalrymple

07-26-2006, 03:02 AM	#20 (permalink)
Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 28,378 Country:	Racism is a part of life. It is best to be indifferent to it...... Or be a master at the language and use syntax that will hit hard and satisy your hurt ego and when the other chap understands what you have said, it will be too late in the day for him! __________________ "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination." I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to. HAKUNA MATATA

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MIKEMUN Contributor Join Date: 01-13-05 Posts: 467	I am black,I am conservative. Does that mean I am a freak?? __________________ "They want to test our feelings.They want to know whether Muslims are extremists or not. Death to them and their newspapers." Protester

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07-27-2006, 11:22 AM	#26 (permalink)
bichler Regular Join Date: 02-15-05 Location: frankfurt germany Posts: 42	i have an american girlfriend from washington dc. when she visited me, we traveled a lot of the nearby rhine region. we had plenty of fun and nice conversations. i asked her how to refer to the black american community and what was her wish to be named. sorry i didnt mention that she is black, had studied in strassbourg france, and her grandmother was the first black schoolprincipal in the state of virginia. her father is a buisnissman and vietnam vetran with a purple hard decorartion. she said to me, that the black american community is divided on that matter, some wants to be called african american and some see themselfs as black americans. her personal decision would be neither of both above, but just an american girl. hope to see her soon bichler

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