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Old 05-05-2006, 04:34 AM   #46 (permalink)
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But pragmatically observing, Afghanistan makes Big Sense for India!
I would have thought so...
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Old 05-05-2006, 05:42 AM   #47 (permalink)
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If you can't interfere in your own neighbourhood, what's the point?
Do read my post about elections in some Indian states with a sizable muslim majority.
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Old 05-05-2006, 05:43 AM   #48 (permalink)
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The Taliban made us their enemy by assisting in the IC-814 hijack in Dec 1999. It is in our interest that the Taliban are destroyed.
Pretty much. And we aren't really fooled by the Musharraf turn around. It is well known that the Taliban is nothing more than a jehadic extension of the ISI and the Pakistan Army.
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Old 05-05-2006, 05:54 AM   #49 (permalink)
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The Taliban made us their enemy by assisting in the IC-814 hijack in Dec 1999. It is in our interest that the Taliban are destroyed.
Its in everyone's interest that the taliban's are destroyed, but we both know why India is interested in Afghanistan.
Taliban is present in Yemen, Sudan, Egypt, Somalia...I don't see any Indian presence in those countries.

Let NATO deal with the problem in Afghanistan, its in mutual interest of both India and Pakistan.
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Old 05-05-2006, 06:02 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Pretty much. And we aren't really fooled by the Musharraf turn around. It is well known that the Taliban is nothing more than a jehadic extension of the ISI and the Pakistan Army.


No,you are mistaken.

They are peaceful peaceniks to ensure peace with the bullet till the world becomes a land of peace beyond the haram. Dar ul Islam and to the rubble consign Dar ul Harb!

How can we not heed the calrion call:

The ideology of jihad was formulated by leading Muslim theologians and scholars from the 8th century onward. Their voluminous writings make clear the notion of jihad as a holy war of conquest. Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani (d. 966), for example, stated,

Jihad is a precept of Divine institution... We Malikis [one of four schools of Muslim jurisprudence] maintain it is preferable not to begin hostilities with the enemy before having invited the latter to embrace the religion of Allah (heard of anything more stupid!), except where the enemy attacks first. They have the alternative of either converting to Islam or paying the poll tax (jizya), short of which war will be declared against them...
 (How kind! They have not heard of the ditty "Bamboo, bamboo in the grass, why are you not up my ****! )

Jihad ideology separates humanity into two hostile blocs: the community of Muslims (Dar ul-Islam), and the infidel non-Muslims (Dar ul-Harb).
http://www.nationalreview.com/commen...yeor070102.asp

Jezia is a poll tax?

Spelling mistake?

Should it not be [I]"pole"[/i] tax (hopefully you got what I mean!)

What arrogance of Islam!


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Taliban is present in Yemen, Sudan, Egypt, Somalia...I don't see any Indian presence in those countries.
One's own neighbourhood worries one, than what is happening at the city centre!

A great saying from Ibn ul Batura!

Yes, Batura and not Batuta!
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Old 05-05-2006, 06:10 AM   #52 (permalink)
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In Somalia, which was taken to be a horror hole, India did rather well!
Yes Sir sure some exceptions are there! Also lets not forget East pakistan where Indian presence was welcomed and their own forces recieved brickbats
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If you can't interfere in your own neighbourhood, what's the point?
Building on better relationship and CBM's with Pakistan would have higher returns for India than meddling in our business thru our neighbor.
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Old 05-05-2006, 06:25 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Building on better relationship and CBM's with Pakistan would have higher returns for India than meddling in our business thru our neighbor.
So you are saying:
India should not send troops to hunt the Taliban, because it is better to make friends with Pakistan

Why can't India go after the Taliban and also make friends with Pakistan, or are you implying that this scenario is not possible. If so, then why?

What problem should Pakistan have if India send troops to Afghanistan and fight the Taliban? Because the Taliban is not a tool of Pakistani strategic depth in Afghan land is it?
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Old 05-05-2006, 06:26 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Building on better relationship and CBM's with Pakistan would have higher returns for India than meddling in our business thru our neighbor.
No Infact since the first is nearly farce being forwarded by Mushy to save his a$$ after 9-11 hence the second option definately offers more hope for India in the coming future.
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Building on better relationship and CBM's with Pakistan would have higher returns for India than meddling in our business thru our neighbor.
Not quite.

We have learnt something from Pakistan too!
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yea... no more trusting the pakistanis... Kargil, we got back-stabbed, wont happen again
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:07 AM   #58 (permalink)
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So you are saying:
India should not send troops to hunt the Taliban, because it is better to make friends with Pakistan
No, Sri, he didn't mean that if I have understood him right.

Did he mean that if the Taliban is licked, then how will Pakistan milk the US for the $$$ that sustain her?
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Taliban is present in Yemen, Sudan, Egypt, Somalia...I don't see any Indian presence in those countries.
Taliban is purely Afghan centric, if a sprinkling of them exist in the countries mentioned by you, then they are there as mercenaries and are of no consequence to Afghanistan and its develoment.
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