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Old 03-14-2006, 16:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I definitely think im better off than when the clintonistas were in power.

In fact id rather gouge my eyes out with broken glass than vote for any clinton to ever hold any office at any level in any state or province of this union.

I'd vote for a communist first, because at least he'd have been honest enough to run on his true beliefs.

The clintons are the ultimate political whores.
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Old 03-14-2006, 16:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It is a global fad now to have a woman leader. It's a "girl thang."


Same thing - please name all of these "fad" leaders.
Im thinking that was humor sir.

The "" is a dead giveaway.
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Old 03-14-2006, 18:57 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Germany's crawl out of economic tatters for so many years into a thriving economy, is now almost one of the worst in the EU.
The wonders of socialism.

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We have so many friends around the world now, they literally love us to death.
And America was admired globally in the decades prior? We were hated in the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, and the 90s.

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New Orleans would probably love any carpet-baggers to bring some kind of life back to their area right now.
NOLA will be a theme park town until we get the racists out of that area.

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you know Reagan is rolling over in his grave right now.
You bet. The federal government is growing and sucking ever larger share of the people's money to support public employee's union and people on welfare.

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I fail to see how the democratic party is on the verge of collapse, since the only direction they have to go in is up.....there is no distance to go any farther down.
Oh easily. The federal government isn't large enough for the Democrats.
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Im thinking that was humor sir.

The "" is a dead giveaway.
I guess I missed it . . . why would you make fun of your own position?
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Old 03-14-2006, 19:46 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I do it sometimes. Self-depreciating humor has it's uses.
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Old 03-14-2006, 23:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
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IThe clintons are the ultimate political whores.
Can't argue with you there since I'm sure you can spot whores 100 miles away.
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You give me slightly too much credit miss...
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I do it sometimes. Self-depreciating humor has it's uses.
Does it ever. Sometimes a good replacement for candor.
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You give me slightly too much credit miss...
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Can you name some of these Republicans since you seem to think that there are so many?
You are just lazy and won't google. Let's just say most Americans and insiders would conclude that the Republicans are being told to get off the stage, and if people do want change, it could hold water. A Democratic sweep of the governorships in 2006 would demoralize the Republicans.

Republicans now hold a 28 to 22 majority among the governors, but they are defending more seats than Democrats in November. Out of the 36 states electing governors this year, Republicans are defending 22, while Democrats are defending 14. Eight of the open seats are Republican.

Having a friendly governor in a key presidential state can make all the difference. Governors are able to mobilize people and have thousands of appointees at their command. If it's Ohio, for example — and the Democrats are favored to win in Ohio — that matters.

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Same thing - please name all of these "fad" leaders.
Same thing lazy....but here ya go:

Michelle Bachelet Jeria - President of Chile from 11 Mar 2006. President of Chili from 11 Mar 2006

Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf - President of Liberia since 16 Jan 2006. She is Africa's first elected head of State

Nino Burdzhanadze - Acting president of Georgia from 23 Nov 2003 to 25 Jan 2004

Megawati Sukarnoptri - The daughter of the late president Sukarno is president of Indonesia from 23 Jul 2001 to 20 Oct 2004.

Maria Gloria Macapagal Arroyo - President of the Phillippines since 20 Jan 2001. Daughter of late president Diosdado Macapagal and second woman president of this Asian State.

Tarja Kaarina Halonen - Finland's first woman president, since 1 Mar 2000. Her tenure expires in 2006.

Mireya Elisa Moscoso de Arias - The first woman president of Panama served from 1 Sep 1999 to 1 Sep 2004. She is the widow (1988) of former president Arnulfo Arias Madrid.

Vaira Vike-Freiberga - The first woman to be president of a country in East/Central Europe or came out with the former Soviet Union, was electer by the Parliament of Latvia on 17 Jun 1999 for a four-year term starting on Jul 8.

Mary McAleese - President of Ireland since 11 Nov 1997. First woman president having succeeded another one, Mary Robinson, in history.

Janet Jagan - President of Guyana from 19 Dec 1997 to 11 Aug 1999.

Chandrika Kumaratunga - President of Sri Lanka from 14 Nov 1994 to 19 Nov 2005.

Mary Robinson - President of Ireland from 3 Dec 1990 to 12 Sep 1997.

Dame Ertha Pascal-Trouillot served as interim president of Haiti from 13 Mar 1990 to 7 Feb 1991. America's third female president and second black female ruler in the continent after Dominica's premier Eugenia Charles.

Corazon (Cory) Aquino – President of the Philippines from 25 Feb 1986 to 30 Jun 1992. Widow of Benigno Aquino, assassinated in 1983. Asia's first woman president.

Agatha Barbara - President of Malta from 15 Feb 1982 to 15 Feb 1987.

Vigdis Finnbogadottir - President of Iceland from 1 Aug 1980 to 1 Aug 1996, has got several "firsts": 1st woman president in Europe, 1st one elected directly by the people in the world and when quitting in 1996 was the female political ruler longest-time in office in the world, as well as the doyen among all European non-monarch rulers.

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Old 03-15-2006, 11:33 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I know.

You are just lazy and won't google. Let's just say most Americans and insiders would conclude that the Republicans are being told to get off the stage, and if people do want change, it could hold water. A Democratic sweep of the governorships in 2006 would demoralize the Republicans.

Republicans now hold a 28 to 22 majority among the governors, but they are defending more seats than Democrats in November. Out of the 36 states electing governors this year, Republicans are defending 22, while Democrats are defending 14. Eight of the open seats are Republican.

Having a friendly governor in a key presidential state can make all the difference. Governors are able to mobilize people and have thousands of appointees at their command. If it's Ohio, for example — and the Democrats are favored to win in Ohio — that matters.

Same thing lazy....but here ya go:

Michelle Bachelet Jeria - President of Chile from 11 Mar 2006. President of Chili from 11 Mar 2006

Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf - President of Liberia since 16 Jan 2006. She is Africa's first elected head of State

Nino Burdzhanadze - Acting president of Georgia from 23 Nov 2003 to 25 Jan 2004

Megawati Sukarnoptri - The daughter of the late president Sukarno is president of Indonesia from 23 Jul 2001 to 20 Oct 2004.

Maria Gloria Macapagal Arroyo - President of the Phillippines since 20 Jan 2001. Daughter of late president Diosdado Macapagal and second woman president of this Asian State.

Tarja Kaarina Halonen - Finland's first woman president, since 1 Mar 2000. Her tenure expires in 2006.

Mireya Elisa Moscoso de Arias - The first woman president of Panama served from 1 Sep 1999 to 1 Sep 2004. She is the widow (1988) of former president Arnulfo Arias Madrid.

Vaira Vike-Freiberga - The first woman to be president of a country in East/Central Europe or came out with the former Soviet Union, was electer by the Parliament of Latvia on 17 Jun 1999 for a four-year term starting on Jul 8.

Mary McAleese - President of Ireland since 11 Nov 1997. First woman president having succeeded another one, Mary Robinson, in history.

Janet Jagan - President of Guyana from 19 Dec 1997 to 11 Aug 1999.

Chandrika Kumaratunga - President of Sri Lanka from 14 Nov 1994 to 19 Nov 2005.

Mary Robinson - President of Ireland from 3 Dec 1990 to 12 Sep 1997.

Dame Ertha Pascal-Trouillot served as interim president of Haiti from 13 Mar 1990 to 7 Feb 1991. America's third female president and second black female ruler in the continent after Dominica's premier Eugenia Charles.

Corazon (Cory) Aquino – President of the Philippines from 25 Feb 1986 to 30 Jun 1992. Widow of Benigno Aquino, assassinated in 1983. Asia's first woman president.

Agatha Barbara - President of Malta from 15 Feb 1982 to 15 Feb 1987.

Vigdis Finnbogadottir - President of Iceland from 1 Aug 1980 to 1 Aug 1996, has got several "firsts": 1st woman president in Europe, 1st one elected directly by the people in the world and when quitting in 1996 was the female political ruler longest-time in office in the world, as well as the doyen among all European non-monarch rulers.
1. Your assertion about Republicans falling like flies made it sound like a done deal, which is a false assertion. Now, if you had stated that Republicans have more to lose because they have a majority, then your statement would have been correct. Language is everything, and you just demonstrated that your original statement was wrong, and no amount of Googling would have borne fruit.

2. Fads tend to be publicized, and so if women leaders were truly all the rage, then shouldn't it be headline news and well known to someone who stays abreast of current news, as opposed to requiring a search? Based on what you posted, the conclusion that could be made is that it was a fad and is now considered to be a failed experiment given that those countries who had women leaders no longer have women executives? Maybe the Fillipino coup was because there was a female president Not the argument that I would make on either account, but certainly not a fad, and certainly not a list of who's who in terms of movers and shakers on the international scene.

I am surprised that your list didn't include Maggie or Merkel, who was/is the executive
of a player on the international scene.
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Now, if you had stated that Republicans have more to lose because they have a majority, then your statement would have been correct.
I thought I had explained that fully with the Governorships.

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Language is everything, and you just demonstrated that your original statement was wrong..
Excuse me, I'm southern.

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...and no amount of Googling would have borne fruit.
I wouldn't knock it until you at least try it.

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2. Fads tend to be publicized, and so if women leaders were truly all the rage, then shouldn't it be headline news and well known to someone who stays abreast of current news, as opposed to requiring a search?
I've already heard about female leaders on the news.....evidently you haven't which was why I posted them.

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Based on what you posted, the conclusion that could be made is that it was a fad and is now considered to be a failed experiment given that those countries who had women leaders no longer have women executives?
Some of those women still hold office, and I didn't list many women executives. Did you see Condi Rice listed?

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Wow, it doesn't take much to surprise you does it.....you must live the life of a hermit since you ask so many questions that you can have answered by listening or watching the news.

I listed enough women leaders to make my point.....and that point is that it is not such a shot in the dark for a woman to become a President of the US at this point in time. Some of you men make it sound utterly impossible, and I'm just trying to pull your head out of the sand without having to call you a chauvenistic pig.

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I thought I had explained that fully with the Governorships.

Excuse me, I'm southern.

I wouldn't knock it until you at least try it.

I've already heard about female leaders on the news.....evidently you haven't which was why I posted them.

Some of those women still hold office, and I didn't list many women executives. Did you see Condi Rice listed?

Wow, it doesn't take much to surprise you does it.....you must live the life of a hermit since you ask so many questions that you can have answered by listening or watching the news.

I listed enough women leaders to make my point.....and that point is that it is not such a shot in the dark for a woman to become a President of the US at this point in time. Some of you men make it sound utterly impossible, and I'm just trying to pull your head out of the sand without having to call you a chauvenistic pig.
1. Your original statement had Republicans "dropping like flies." That's present tense trying to describe a potential future action. You needed to use the conditional tense, and you didn't, which makes your original statements invalid, which is why I asked the question.

2. Some of my singular posts probably contain more cited information than your whole corpus of posts, so don't play the "discover Google" game with me. You made an assertion which I asked you to back up (you seem to think that you make golden assertions since you always are disturbed when someone challenges them on the facts that you didn't provide). You then list a dozen executives (executive is a governmental term that refers to the President or Prime Minister of a nation; e.g. President Bush is the head of the executive branch and it would be correct to refer to him as the executive of the US, although that is not his title) over a twenty year period and call it a "fad." Your description just doesn't wash.

3. Don't attribute any chauvinism in my direction. I challenge you to find a quote of mine that denounces women leaders prima faccia. You can try, but you won't find any. That's because I evaluate people based on their qualifications and I base opportunity based on the real world.
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1. Your original statement had Republicans "dropping like flies." That's present tense trying to describe a potential future action. You needed to use the conditional tense, and you didn't, which makes your original statements invalid, which is why I asked the question.
Stop playing "lawyer" with me.

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2. Some of my singular posts probably contain more cited information than your whole corpus of posts, so don't play the "discover Google" game with me. You made an assertion which I asked you to back up (you seem to think that you make golden assertions since you always are disturbed when someone challenges them on the facts that you didn't provide). You then list a dozen executives (executive is a governmental term that refers to the President or Prime Minister of a nation; e.g. President Bush is the head of the executive branch and it would be correct to refer to him as the executive of the US, although that is not his title) over a twenty year period and call it a "fad." Your description just doesn't wash.
You are challenging that there are presently no women leaders or governmental executive women around other parts of the world?

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Don't attribute any chauvinism in my direction. I challenge you to find a quote of mine that denounces women leaders prima faccia. You can try, but you won't find any. That's because I evaluate people based on their qualifications and I base opportunity based on the real world.
I will so attribute chauvinism in your direction, and to back that up....there isn't one post I have made that you haven't butted your nose into to intentionally denounce me!

What's wrong with you? You got a problem with a women being a mod or something?
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Julie, are you okay? Are you even Julie? You're acting like a 10 year-old.

Getting snippy because someone demonstrates how your inexact language doesn't support your point?

Making a claim in a debate/argument and placing the burden of finding facts to back that point up on someone else?

These are not flattering characteristics, in my opinion.

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Julie, are you okay? Are you even Julie? You're acting like a 10 year-old.

Getting snippy because someone demonstrates how your inexact language doesn't support your point?

Making a claim in a debate/argument and placing the burden of finding facts to back that point up on someone else?

These are not flattering characteristics, in my opinion.

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"inexact language,"....you're joking right? Who pushed your button, and asked for your opinion anyway? Did Shek call you for reinforcement or something?

You know, it is sooooo irritating to make a thread that can be on-going prior to an election year.....then some analyzer come in to rip it all to shreds.

I usually don't give in this easy to BS.....but it's ball season and I aint got time for this BS anyways......I'll give you the win.....you can have it......this 10-year old is putting in her notice......TODAY.

Bye-bye now.
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