troung

Who needs MMs when you have this... real women with guns... and in two cases less then common guns....

Hell I just have a huge collection of military pics

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Too bad sadly most of the people in these pictures are probably dead...

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GAM guerillas in training (Indonesia)
Somalian militiawomen
Somalian militiawomen
FARC guerilla
Iraqi policwomen

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hammer

( lady at extreme left in the second picture)isnt she carrying a MP44 WWII german rifle ?

Veni Vidi Vici

There fighting for what they beleive. An honorable deed.

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If lambs to the slaughter can be considered honourable.

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Veni Vidi Vici

A woman dying in combat for what she beleives is no less honorable then a man who dies, even if you disagree with women in the military.

TopHatter

I believe she is...a real golden oldie. Wonder where she aquired it?



Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
A woman dying in combat for what she beleives is no less honorable then a man who dies, even if you disagree with women in the military.




True...though I think what the Colonel possibly means is that many of these women are recruited, given arms, whipped up into a frenzy and then sent off with a minimal amount of training, with the inevitable result.

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troung

The Somali woman is carrying an MP-44 and some of the others in the picture had MAS-49/56s, Beretta SMGs and other older weapons. The picture was taken during the Ogaden war after the defeat of the Somali invasion force and the destruction of their army left the country at the mercy of Ethiopian/Cuban forces. The Somalian army's heavy equipment (tanks, artillery and such) was destoryed through air strikes and ground combat and the door was left open so to say. So it was cheaper to dig up old weapons and hand them off to locals to fight Ethiopian T-55s backed with MiG-23BNs, MiG-21MFs, F-5A/Es, Mi-24As and heavy artillery. With the influx of Soviet aid during the Ogaden war the Ethiopian arm became the largest in Africa. Before the war it is noteworthy that Ethiopia was an American ally and Somalia was in team Russia but during the war it switched. Ethiopia won.

Pictures like that in a way did lead to say Blackhawk down...

Officer of Engineers

I disagree with a bunch of baby seals given some toys, believing they have a chance against real big bad wolves.

ChrisF202

Also in that picture I belive I see a Mauser in the backround. Quite a varity of weapons I must say, ammo must be a problem.

troung

Well you should wonder if they really planned to give those ladies more bullets in case the Ethiopian army started a major drive with it's huge tank force.

In the picture....

M-14 (7.62mm)
MAS-49/56 (7.5mm)
MP-44 (7.92mm Kutz)
K-98 (7.92mm)
Modele-49 (depends on the model)
Beretta SMG (9mm)

other types as well such as that Italian bolt action carbine...

You get the feeling these ladies are cannon fodder... to hopefully slow down the Ethiopian army/airforce and their Cuban buddies...

Officer of Engineers

Baby seals.

Anon

Clubbing baby seals is what normally follows arming baby seals...

TopHatter

*Shaking my head sadly* I have to agree with you Sir...baby seals being sent off for the slaughter.
On the opposite of the coin, you have the female Soviet snipers of the Great Patriotic War...
Thoughts on those Black Widows?

Officer of Engineers

More propaganda than reality. The reality is that for every one of them, there were 10 dead women trying to make the team but then the same goes for every other military occupation in the Red Army then.

It was attrition, pure and simple. Those good enough and lucky enough lived long enough to have their stories published.

However, not one of them or all of them combined stopped the Wehrmacht from conducting combat operations.

troung

Women fighters for the Palestinians during Lebanon were reguarded from all sides as being rather brutal. During the first battle for Mazar-i-Sharif in the Afghanistan Civil War local women fought the Taliban in the streets after the Taliban walked into a Blackhawk down situation minus the blackhawks and with much bigger losses.

And there were the Dahombi women (can't spell) in Africa during the late 1800s who fought the French. Of course in all three cases they took bad losses and in Mazar the Taliban didn't have maps and kept getting stuck in alleys while people raked them with fire from whatever was on hand.

But yeah in pretty much all cases they get used as cannon fodder. Kinda of the last string before it is time to haul up the white flag.... and I guess nothing is worse in wartime then to be the last string and knowing that and then facing down a well equipped army on the attack which smells blood.

The GAM girls are facing down the large and rather brutal Indonesian army. Hell those girls don't look old enough to buy a pack of smokes.

The Iraqi policewomen are taking on the guerillas/terrorists in Iraq and the ING has taken heavy losses in the last few months.

The FARC chic is facing the well equipped Colombian army

Granted in the Somali picture even if those were guys standing there, with MP-44s, K-98s, M-14s, MAS-49s facing down Ethiopian/Cuban soldiers with their Cuban/Russian advisors backed by T-55s, T-34-85s, F-5A/Es, MiG-21s, Mi-24As and of course smelling blood knowing they have taken out all of the Somilian heavy equipment in the previous fights ... I would call them cannon fodder as well....

Of course lets no forget the nasty treatement these women often get at the hands of guys "on their side"...