Aryan

Please don't put words in my mouth, it doesn't do you justice. I've never stated that my race was superior, or anything of the sort.

All I said was Pakistan was an Aryan country, and India is not, although they have a sizeable Aryan minority (which is restricted Punjab and the higher castes in northern states).

Jay

What?? May be take look in Asian affairs! thats where you talked about aryan supremacy...do you want a link to that??

Last I heard Pakistan was an Islamic Republic, dunno about "aryan" country. Once again do visit Karachi once in a while and look at the mohajir's there. In India muslims are in minority but they number around 130 million people. A single north Indian state Uttar Pradesh (incidentally lots of Mohajir's are from these areas) has a population around 190 million. So I think you *guess* the so called upper caste population in India.

So what difference does it make between a country that has 140 million as majority Aryans and atleast 200 million as minority in another??

So whats the selling point of your supremacy arguement ??

Jay

BTW do you know who coined the term Aryans??

Aryan

What better to quote Quaid-e-Azam (the Great Leader)

"We are a nation with our own distinctive culture and civilization, language and literature, art and architecture, names and nomenclature, sense of values and proportion, legal laws and moral code, customs and calendar, history and tradition, aptitudes and ambitions; in short, we have our own distinctive outlook on life and of life. By all canons of international law, we are a nation".

What he believed was the people of modern Pakistan were a seperate people to India, with no reference to religion. Pakistan was about race, not religion. Jinnah wanted all of Punjab, and didn't really campaign for Bengal until late on, it was more of an afterthought. Bengal isn't included in the name of Pakistan.

Furthermore, Jinnah created a secular Pakistan; he himself ate pork and drank alcohol freely.

I didn't say all people automatically became Aryans, just that they existed, and only in the higher castes.

Yeah, its from sanskrit word arya meaning honour.

Jay

Can you spell out the official long name of Pakistan??
Also can you read Pakistan's constitution one more time?? Start with this question...What are the qualifications needed to be President of Pakistan.

Whats the point in talking about races, when we have more of the same stock?? IMO aryans are not superior to any body else, they are just a group of nomadic people.

Max Mueller coined the word Arya. He classified Arya as a linguistic entity not a racial one. Even though he claimed to be an indologist (may be he is), he was never proficient in Sanskrit or any other indo langauges.

One more point to ponder, do you know that Baluchis and Tamilian Yadhavas share the same M172 NRY allele ?? Kallars in Tamil Nadu have M20 NRY Chromosome thats ahred by Middle easterners??

Aryan

Pakistan was created as a secular state, as was India. Both have strayed away from secularism. Don't worry, we removing this religious tumour from us, unlike India who seems to be embracing it.

We? Indian Aryans are impure and polluted.

So you claim Arya isn't a sanskrit word?

I didn't but I suspect it may have to do with the Brahvi in Balochistan, but I'll have to read into that. What paper did you get it from?

headlessbarbie

Some facist might call you a Nazi..
http://www.americanfascistmovement.com/platform.htm

Race - Racial hatred is not supported nor condoned by the AFM. We are Fascists, if we wanted to place emphasis on race we would be Nazis.


Well ,I won't play games with you. I am not a facist or anything leftist for that matter. I am of the old liberal ideas of the American founding fathers that flowed from the reformation and the great awakening and the enlightenment of northern Europe.. NOT SOUTHERN EUROPE~!

I do find facism and Nazism intreaging however. We Americans do not realize that our perception is tainted by a successfull propagana campain. I am very intreaged by the NWO conspiracy that current facist and Nazis are propagating. I also find it disturbing that the radical Islamic movement is facist in nature yet very few are conserned or even seem to notice. Mien Kaump is alive and well working it's spell all through out the Middle East and do narry a western brow even twitch? Barely a tremmer.

I will give you also the admission that facism is much more appealing than communism, realistic and sensable. It does recogize human need for religion, family and comrodery community and unity where communsim seeks only to divide and exploit ever human as mear resource for the state. Communism is simply the most dehumanizing and dark form of government oppression every conceived in the mind of man. But you cannot over look that fact that facism is yet another interpretation of Marxism and is based on a manigarial style government and still with all it's merits it, like communism, denies the rights and dignity of the individual... the good of the state rules supream. or as Dr. Spock (of star treak) puts it "the needs of the many out weighs the needs of the few" thus creating a system where the individual is trampled by the many and justice becomes a dead idea. If the many are better served by euthenasia then grandma and grandpaw can just climb on their lil ice burg and float away. The week are no longer protected by the strong but expoited and discarded and unity is created by singling out an scape goat to unite against ....

I guess this really is off the point of the thread so I will end this here.
eryan

Jay

Removing religious tumour? How ?? By killing all the non-sunnis and non-believers?? Please dont compare the religious freedom in Republic of India with Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

you've been harping this from day one, You havent proved squat. I think Pakistanis are impure than any other people, coz of repeated forced "entry"

Arya is a sanksrit word, but Max Mueller named the group with this term. So your whole "aryan" race theory is pure BS, coz Mueller categorized it as a linguistic group.

You dont need to barbie, fight against nazi's and facists can be anywhere and everywhere, so go ahead!

Aryan

By gathering the islamic extremist and vocal religious elements of society, putting them on a boat, and sinking it.

Ok, religious freedom is allowed in India, as long as you aren't in Gujurat, where you have to believe cow cosmetics is a great idea.

I've proved it again and again, but all you keep doing is talking about madrassa and Islamic republic of Pakistan this and that. So I'm going to stop talking about it with you...

Ahh just stay off the cow urine beer mate...

Jay

impossible, you dont have that many boats to put in 150 million people, y dont you go by your mentor - Hitler's way

Yep cow cosmetics is better than getting anal raped. Still muslims do live in Gujarat! Talk to Shias, Christians, Ahmedias about your religious freedom.

What did you proved again and again? Dont get annoyed, Pakistan is an Islamic republic, I or you cant change Pakistani constitution. Madrassa...oh u mean university of holy war? its again in Pakistan, cant help it!

gee thanks for the advice, do buy a good cork to save ya white skinned aryan @ss

Aryan

Because that will be reserved for your kind

You mean those the options in Indian beauticians? Hey then I see why cow pat mascara or cow urine lipstick is popular in India...

What happens to shias and christians is by terrorists, usually foreign. India has groups of religious fanatics all ready to kill each other. You don't get that in Pakistan, christians, shias and sunnis have no problems with each other.

Whats the difference between an Islamic madrassa and a Hindu Madrassa?

gee thanks for the advice, do buy a good cork to save ya white skinned aryan @ss [/QUOTE]

Hey can cow dung do the same? I'm curious, have you ever tried cow urine? Serious question, please be honest.

Jay

hehe, you claimed that Pakistan is trying to take care of the rotten. So it has to be you all aryans.

gee, you seems to know a lot about cow and urine...were you treated by that British doc?? And yeah, I dont use lipstick or Mascara, but based on your repuation I guess you would know more about it. So how does that work? you put them everytime you go out to attract guys??

foreign terrorists? u mean to say some one is giving them moral and diplomatic support?? dont draw a saintly picture of Pakistan...you guys are known for University of Jihad. cant escape from it!

Hindu madrassa? never heard of em. But I have heard about University of Jihad, where young kids bang their head to learn Koran and hadiths, where the kids are brain washed that all non-believers are kafirs and had to be killed, where the kids are taught about Koran, koran and only koran, no math no science, no arts. He's a terrorist in the making...who else is gonna give a job to him other than Osama??

Never tried them, may be you try it and let us all the forumers know. Honestly I'm really sorry if my posts brought you some bad painful posterior memories

Aryan

Hey come on lets just stop this, I don't see the point in exchanging banter, lets just agree to disagree.

visioninthedark

it a few thousand at most who have held the rest hostage ....

once we make an example of these hard-core animals .... the rest will just shut-up and stick to farming ....

we're getting rid of this cancer .... and we will be successfull!

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Aryan

Great! Then we can take care of the other cancer....