MACV-SOG (Studies And Observations Group)

**Ironduke** · 08-03-2003, 01:28 AM

Comprised of the Green Berets, Army Rangers, Marine Recon, and Navy SEALS, this was the most elite commando group in the Vietnam War, it's existenc wasn't acknowledged by the US government until the late 1980's.

Pic of a SOG squad, featured are 3 Americans, and 4 Montagnards.

Top left to right:
SGT Charles J. Hein One - Two RTO

SSG Glen Uemura One - One Asst Team Leader

SSG Franklin D. Miller One - Zero Team Leader

Bottom left to right:
HYAK Pointman - Tracker Tribe - Sedang

BOON Backup Pointman Tribe - Halang

HYAK Interpreter - Tracker Tribe - Sedang

DANG Tail Gunner Tribe - Halang

(Montagnards have only one name, so Pointman Hyak would be Hyak One and Interpreter Hyak would be Hyak Two)

This is a picture of the SOG patch, it was not official and was invented by a SOG soldier in Vietnam. It features the anchor symbolizing the Navy SEALS, the skull symbolizing Marine Recon, the green beret symbolizing the Green Berets, the airbone wings of airbone units. Army Rangers are somewhere on there too but I don't know where.

They usually operated in squads consisting of 3 Americans and 9 indigenous, Montagnards (the first people of Vietnam) Cham (indigenous Chinese) and Vietnamese, in addition to Hmongs, Laotians, and Cambodians.

Helicopter either inserting or extracting a SOG team from the jungle of Vietnam

Green Beret Lounge at FOB Phu Bai

Lt Col. Robinson listening to country music at the club

JACOBS LADDER...Army slick configured for ladder extract. This form of insertion or extrication required the aircraft to hover over a hole in the jungle under less than optimal conditions, often under fire to allow the recon team members to board the ladder. The Pilot in this photo is Barry Schreiber.

Capt. Mike Brokovich and friends in front of H-34's of the KINGBEES.

Pictured are four Army Huey gunship pilots from Battery B, 77th ARA, 101st Airborne Division, standing in front of H-34's from the AFVN 219th squadron "Kingbee". Their call sign on the CCN missions was usually "Dragonfly". Captain Mike Brokovich, (click here to read Mikes story) pictured here would usually "Fly Lead" when he flew these missions, which he did from March 1969 into 1970. The other three pilots from the left are Al Hanson, who is MIA presumed dead, Willy Lawson who retired from the Army as a Lt. Col., and Barry Schreiber.

An Army slick completing a "string" extraction of a recon team in the vicinity of Co Roc Mountain. Co Roc Mountain standing to the west of Khe Sahn in Laos served as an almost impregnable artillery base with caves that sheltered North Vietnamese heavy artillery during the siege of Khe Sahn. It was a prominent terrain feature visible from a great distance in good weather and was sometime referred to as "Prudential Mountain" by Scarface pilots in 1969. It was not uncommon to take occasional air bursts from large caliber antiaircraft weapons in this vicinity.

View of an Army slick completing a "string" extraction of a recon team from the A Shau valley.

JP-F fire at Phu Bei.

**Ironduke** · 08-03-2003, 01:29 AM

Spike Team Idaho

An inspection of a team at CCN by Gen. Stilwell in March or April in 69.

RT Vermont

Another Hyak (Montagnard)

**Ironduke** · 08-03-2003, 01:29 AM

NASTY boats, used to raid North Vietnamese coastal installations and take NVA prisoners

Guys from the 3rd Force Reconnaissance Company, 3rd Recon Battalion

"The enormous contribution of SOG in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos is a story that needs to be told."
-- Henry Kissinger

" SOG played an important role during our operations against the communist enemy in Vietnam. SOG is a superb and compelling account of their dedication and heroism."
-- Gen. William Westmoreland, USA (Ret.)

"At last, a quarter-century after their top-secret deeds, we can recognize the Vietnam War's greatest unsung heroes, SOG's covert warriors. The dramatic true stories in SOG fill a major gap in special operations history."
-- Maj. Gen. John K. Singlaub, USA (Ret.)

Halfemtysoul · 08-03-2003, 16:20 PM

O right on!! Awesome pics man.

rahul0072002 · 08-09-2003, 08:24 AM

Damn, these guys are the real deal!! 8)

TNP · 08-10-2003, 15:04 PM

SPECIAL OPERATION ASSOCIATION

COMMAND AND CONTROL NORTH CHIEN DOAN 1 SO LIEN LAC TOAN THAM SAT CRUSADER

VIETNAMESE SPECIAL FORCES

AIR AMERICA / CIA AIR SERVICE VIETNAM

RANGER AIRBORNE 81 GROUP

SPECIAL MISSION SERVICE

NAVY SEALS

08-03-2003, 01:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ironduke Burgomaster Join Date: 08-02-03 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 6,800 Country:	MACV-SOG (Studies And Observations Group) Comprised of the Green Berets, Army Rangers, Marine Recon, and Navy SEALS, this was the most elite commando group in the Vietnam War, it's existenc wasn't acknowledged by the US government until the late 1980's. Pic of a SOG squad, featured are 3 Americans, and 4 Montagnards. Top left to right: SGT Charles J. Hein One - Two RTO SSG Glen Uemura One - One Asst Team Leader SSG Franklin D. Miller One - Zero Team Leader Bottom left to right: HYAK Pointman - Tracker Tribe - Sedang BOON Backup Pointman Tribe - Halang HYAK Interpreter - Tracker Tribe - Sedang DANG Tail Gunner Tribe - Halang (Montagnards have only one name, so Pointman Hyak would be Hyak One and Interpreter Hyak would be Hyak Two) This is a picture of the SOG patch, it was not official and was invented by a SOG soldier in Vietnam. It features the anchor symbolizing the Navy SEALS, the skull symbolizing Marine Recon, the green beret symbolizing the Green Berets, the airbone wings of airbone units. Army Rangers are somewhere on there too but I don't know where. They usually operated in squads consisting of 3 Americans and 9 indigenous, Montagnards (the first people of Vietnam) Cham (indigenous Chinese) and Vietnamese, in addition to Hmongs, Laotians, and Cambodians. Helicopter either inserting or extracting a SOG team from the jungle of Vietnam Green Beret Lounge at FOB Phu Bai Lt Col. Robinson listening to country music at the club JACOBS LADDER...Army slick configured for ladder extract. This form of insertion or extrication required the aircraft to hover over a hole in the jungle under less than optimal conditions, often under fire to allow the recon team members to board the ladder. The Pilot in this photo is Barry Schreiber. Capt. Mike Brokovich and friends in front of H-34's of the KINGBEES. Pictured are four Army Huey gunship pilots from Battery B, 77th ARA, 101st Airborne Division, standing in front of H-34's from the AFVN 219th squadron "Kingbee". Their call sign on the CCN missions was usually "Dragonfly". Captain Mike Brokovich, (click here to read Mikes story) pictured here would usually "Fly Lead" when he flew these missions, which he did from March 1969 into 1970. The other three pilots from the left are Al Hanson, who is MIA presumed dead, Willy Lawson who retired from the Army as a Lt. Col., and Barry Schreiber. An Army slick completing a "string" extraction of a recon team in the vicinity of Co Roc Mountain. Co Roc Mountain standing to the west of Khe Sahn in Laos served as an almost impregnable artillery base with caves that sheltered North Vietnamese heavy artillery during the siege of Khe Sahn. It was a prominent terrain feature visible from a great distance in good weather and was sometime referred to as "Prudential Mountain" by Scarface pilots in 1969. It was not uncommon to take occasional air bursts from large caliber antiaircraft weapons in this vicinity. View of an Army slick completing a "string" extraction of a recon team from the A Shau valley. JP-F fire at Phu Bei.

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08-03-2003, 01:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ironduke Burgomaster Join Date: 08-02-03 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 6,800 Country:	Spike Team Idaho An inspection of a team at CCN by Gen. Stilwell in March or April in 69. RT Vermont Another Hyak (Montagnard)

08-03-2003, 01:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ironduke Burgomaster Join Date: 08-02-03 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 6,800 Country:	NASTY boats, used to raid North Vietnamese coastal installations and take NVA prisoners Guys from the 3rd Force Reconnaissance Company, 3rd Recon Battalion "The enormous contribution of SOG in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos is a story that needs to be told." -- Henry Kissinger " SOG played an important role during our operations against the communist enemy in Vietnam. SOG is a superb and compelling account of their dedication and heroism." -- Gen. William Westmoreland, USA (Ret.) "At last, a quarter-century after their top-secret deeds, we can recognize the Vietnam War's greatest unsung heroes, SOG's covert warriors. The dramatic true stories in SOG fill a major gap in special operations history." -- Maj. Gen. John K. Singlaub, USA (Ret.)

08-03-2003, 16:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
Halfemtysoul New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 5	O right on!! Awesome pics man.

08-09-2003, 08:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
rahul0072002 Regular Join Date: 08-07-03 Posts: 81	Damn, these guys are the real deal!! 8)

08-10-2003, 15:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
TNP Regular Join Date: 08-06-03 Location: Oakville Posts: 96	SPECIAL OPERATION ASSOCIATION COMMAND AND CONTROL NORTH CHIEN DOAN 1 SO LIEN LAC TOAN THAM SAT CRUSADER VIETNAMESE SPECIAL FORCES AIR AMERICA / CIA AIR SERVICE VIETNAM RANGER AIRBORNE 81 GROUP SPECIAL MISSION SERVICE NAVY SEALS

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