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Old 01-29-2006, 03:16 AM   #31 (permalink)
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If that's what you meant, then that's what you should have typed.

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You said that you are going to spot and track a group of tanks from a sat.
I said you can't. And you can't.

Thats understandable?
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Old 01-29-2006, 05:14 AM   #32 (permalink)
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You said that you are going to spot and track a group of tanks from a sat.
I said you can't. And you can't.

Thats understandable?
I said we could spot them from orbit and kill them with arty from 10 miles away. Which we could.

You stated that there are no realtime intel feeds from current satellites. Which there are.

Then you probably shook your rattle and killed a chicken to divine your next weird "fact".

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Old 01-29-2006, 05:27 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I said we could spot them from orbit and kill them with arty from 10 miles away. Which we could.

You stated that there are no realtime intel feeds from current satellites. Which there are.
You haven't did that before, as kNikS stated. So you couldn't.

Yes, you said something weird about a super-puper "top-penetrator" Whats the model? Have not heard about such a thing. From what StarTrek episode?

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Then you probably shook your rattle and killed a chicken to divine your next weird "fact".
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Yeah, post some more hot shot "facts" about killing tanks en masse spotted from a sat. Teleporting bombs right inside of them?

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Old 01-29-2006, 10:03 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Lots of little subs preparing to submerge...


Hard to tell from the picture....but it looks like they are limited to 20 feet before they start sucking in water instead of air
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Old 01-29-2006, 10:06 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Hard to tell from the picture....but it looks like they are limited to 20 feet before they start sucking in water instead of air
Yes, of course. Limited depth, need to go on a straight line and so on.
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Old 01-29-2006, 14:01 PM   #36 (permalink)
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…NRO also has three digital-imaging satellites known as KH-11. They delivered very high resolution pictures in visible light and infrared. They couldn't see through foliage, but they could see at night in good weather…
Obviously, they didn’t see too much. All in all, very modest chances to detect a vehicle, nvm weapon guidance and other stuff.
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Old 01-29-2006, 15:14 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Yes, of course. Limited depth, need to go on a straight line and so on.

And you need to keep a slow speed, and distance between vehicles and keep them from going off in a strange direction (since they are driving blind).

The reason the US uses AVLBs and other bridging equipment.
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Old 01-29-2006, 17:47 PM   #38 (permalink)
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You haven't did that before, as kNikS stated. So you couldn't.

Yes, you said something weird about a super-puper "top-penetrator" Whats the model? Have not heard about such a thing. From what StarTrek episode?
Read a book, child. Failing that, do a google search on "copperhead" artillery rounds. That's what we had back in the early 80s, And I know what we have now is equal or better.

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Yeah, post some more hot shot "facts" about killing tanks en masse spotted from a sat. Teleporting bombs right inside of them?
You really are gut-wrenchingly ignorant, aren't you? It's not just some kind of web act. How sad.

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Old 01-29-2006, 17:51 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Read a book, child. Failing that, do a google search on "copperhead" artillery rounds. That's what we had back in the early 80s, And I know what we have now is equal or better.
"Copperhead"? M712? Laser-guided?

Who'is going to illuminate the targets from 10 km, snob? You with your naked a**?


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I just hate stupid lame snobs, thats it
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"Copperhead"? M712? Laser-guided?

Who'is going to illuminate the targets from 10 km, snob? You with your naked a**?



I just hate stupid lame snobs, thats it
So you couldn't even find SADARM.

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So you couldn't even find SADARM.
Read, before you post stupid things. SADARm is against lightly armored targets only. EFP means just a shot of melted copper.
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Read, before you post stupid things. SADARm is against lightly armored targets only. EFP means just a shot of melted copper.

You really need to take another look at that. SADARM is not a soft skin vehicle killer.

Hence the name Sense And Destroy ARMor. It will punch through any armored vehicle around today. To include all tanks.

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"Copperhead"? M712? Laser-guided?

Who'is going to illuminate the targets from 10 km, snob? You with your naked a**?



I just hate stupid lame snobs, thats it
Hating yourself then?

Who will illuminate? How about that AFAC. Any F-15/16/18/117 AH-1/64 or a whole host of RPVs that can be outfitted with a laser designator
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Old 01-29-2006, 19:24 PM   #44 (permalink)
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You really need to take another look at that. SADARM is a soft skin vehicle killer.

Hence the name Search And Destroy ARMor. It will punch through any armored vehicle around today. To include all tanks.
Didn't find anywhere data about the penetration ability of SADARM.

But Russian army uses similar (but much bigger in size) anti-helicopter mines with EFP, and effective range against a "soft" target is 200m. I doubt that SADARM can do anything about a heavy armoured target.
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Hating yourself then?
Who will illuminate? How about that AFAC. Any F-15/16/18/117 AH-1/64 or a whole host of RPVs that can be outfitted with a laser designator
I know, but this is entirely different picture. I just like to play with stupid

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You do know that we can still see that stuff from orbit and fire self-guiding top-penetrator submunitions from artillery 10 miles away when they dry off?
Nice and clean, no aviation involved.


p.s. You guys never fought in AA saturated environment. When you face 10000 shoulder mounted Igla's down to every squad, and tons of other equipment entirely designed to eliminate your aviation - the picture will be not so pretty.

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