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Old 01-27-2006, 04:15 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Hell, I could swim over to them, spray some hairspray into the snorkels and drop a (waterproof) match in. Think of the money you'd save.
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Old 01-27-2006, 05:33 AM   #17 (permalink)
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What spacecraft?
Well, KH-11 for one, and that's only what I can get from my memory and confirm with Google public info, you stupid a$$wipe.

Do you make an effort at achieving your demonstrated level of ignorance, or does it come naturally?

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Old 01-27-2006, 08:48 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Well, KH-11 for one, and that's only what I can get from my memory and confirm with Google public info, you stupid a$$wipe.

Do you make an effort at achieving your demonstrated level of ignorance, or does it come naturally?

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KH-11 - sun-synchronous orbits, passes once a day usually in the morning. No real time. All the orbits are published for everybody to check.

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p.s. Ignorance huh? There are different levels of it. I am just happens to know a little bit, and ignorant of science fiction.
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Old 01-27-2006, 10:05 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I think its really cool that you can watertight a tank and fully submerge it.

Not that it is meant to do it ofcoarse but how long can they remain submerged any limit on time?

Ok gonna ask a dumb question here... Can it defend itself while still submerged?
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Old 01-27-2006, 13:11 PM   #20 (permalink)
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You do know that we can still see that stuff from orbit and fire self-guiding top-penetrator submunitions from artillery 10 miles away when they dry off?
Of course but there are so many a lot easier ways to kill a tank. Besides, Russians can do a similar thing with Pchela-1T UAV and Krasnopol laser-guided artillery projectile.

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And this is certainly one of those ways.
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Old 01-27-2006, 13:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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KH-11 - sun-synchronous orbits, passes once a day usually in the morning. No real time. All the orbits are published for everybody to check.

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p.s. Ignorance huh? There are different levels of it. I am just happens to know a little bit, and ignorant of science fiction.
Really, how you continue to post here when you are constantly painting yourself as an ignorant fool amazes me.

A quick Google brings up this.

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Old 01-27-2006, 13:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think its really cool that you can watertight a tank and fully submerge it.

Not that it is meant to do it ofcoarse but how long can they remain submerged any limit on time?

Ok gonna ask a dumb question here... Can it defend itself while still submerged?
It's an idea that has never worked out well. The Germans tried it on some of their tanks 'way back and they were displeased with the results as well. The closest success was the Brit-designed duplex drive that ended up being used on the Sherman, but that only got the tank "swimming", not fully submerged.

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Really, how you continue to post here when you are constantly painting yourself as an ignorant fool amazes me.

A quick Google brings up this.

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How about you read the link you have posted, and see for your self that it talks only about photography. Once/twice a day max per sattellite.

Why do you think Predator drones were created? There is no constant real-time visual surveiilance from space. Yet.

I am just merely suggesting you to stop watching your StarTrek movies, and try to learn more about real things. Instead of calling other people ingorant, and being lame ignorant person at the same time.

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How about you read the link you have posted, and see for your self that it talks only about photography. Once/twice a day max per sattellite.

Why do you think Predator drones were created? There is no constant real-time visual surveiilance from space. Yet.

I am just merely suggesting you to stop watching your StarTrek movies, and try to learn more about real things. Instead of calling other people ingorant, and being lame ignorant person at the same time.
From the page RE the KH-11:

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"KH-11 satellites transmit images in real time to ground stations via Milstar communications relay satellites."
What about that take is not real time?

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What about that take is not real time?

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So you got a static picture transmitted instantly from a sattellite once a day. Three times, if you have 3 sats.

How is that "constant"?

So you spotted a group of tanks.

Good luck locating them in 2-3-4 hours.
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Old 01-28-2006, 18:11 PM   #27 (permalink)
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So you got a static picture transmitted instantly from a sattellite once a day. Three times, if you have 3 sats.

How is that "constant"?

So you spotted a group of tanks.

Good luck locating them in 2-3-4 hours.
So you admit that it is real time?

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I seen the link… it’s full of hot-talk about Yugoslavia campaign… four dozen satellites but only 13 killed tanks…
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I seen the link… it’s full of hot-talk about Yugoslavia campaign… four dozen satellites but only 13 killed tanks…
Ехactly my point. If you got a static picture, you need a time to analyze it.


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So you admit that it is real time?
When I was talking about "real-time visual" I meant "available any time day and night", constant, better dynamic.

Instant photo transmission from a sat once a day, which orbit is known to everyone is just not working.
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Ехactly my point. If you got a static picture, you need a time to analyze it.



When I was talking about "real-time visual" I meant "available any time day and night", constant, better dynamic.

Instant photo transmission from a sat once a day, which orbit is known to everyone is just not working.
If that's what you meant, then that's what you should have typed.

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