Thread: No pals in Nepal

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

No Major, the Chinese are NOT violating 1267 and 1373. In order for the Chinese to violate them, the UNSC MUST declare JuD to be a terror group and fall under 1267 and 1373 and since China has vetoed that action, then 1267 and 1373 DOES NOT APPLY. That is the legality of it.

Sir,

It still remains a violation, even before the banning of the JuD.

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And JuD was wearing Lashkar's diapers.

......Bottom line, Major, JuD was not a terror org because Pakistan lobbied the hell out of the Chinese. After that, it is geopolitics, as simple as that.

The Paks are the one who created the JuD. Its immaterial why they lobbied for the or against them. But its material to note that the US didn't buy their crap, the Chinese did.

Major, when talking about the UN, only legalities are a concern. Everything else is platitude for the birds on how the world is unfair. You've got one UNSG (Annan) who accused the US of committing a crime when he had no legal authority to state so and that same UNSG vetoed the last chance to stop the Rwandan genocide. That same Annan is taken to be the Holly Ghost of the US is a criminal gang while 800,000 human beings were litterally butchered by machete to be croc and worm food.

You're using outside rules to impose a morality on the UNSC. Not only does that not apply but morality is the last thing you should use when it comes to the UNSC. It doesn't exist.

Originally Posted by Deltacamelately

Sir,

It still remains a violation, even before the banning of the JuD.

And JuD was wearing Lashkar's diapers.

And the UNSC MUST DECLARE THEM to be wearing diapers.

Originally Posted by Deltacamelately

The Paks are the one who created the JuD. Its immaterial why they lobbied for the or against them. But its material to note that the US didn't buy their crap, the Chinese did.

So? How is that different from Hezbollah?

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

And the UNSC MUST DECLARE THEM to be wearing diapers.

Sir,

The Lashkar has already been declared, JuD fills the same rank and funds, that is for anyones take.

So? How is that different from Hezbollah?

Yes, and today the Hezbollah is the biggest provider of social services in Lebanon, running schools, hospitals, social networks and agricultural services, while retaining their weapons. Heck, even the The Lebanese parliament overwhelmingly approved a national unity government that allows Hezbollah to keep its weapons, something that the Pak Parliament should have done, if they wanted to dish out legal credibility to the Lashkar.