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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    GN, Imagine us less PR dependant!
    WW2 under FDR rule. No-holds-barred fighting and concentration camps for our own citizens...ahh the good times...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    Would you prefer that we be less PR dependent?
    i would prefer some of you to be less exalted regarding "democratic" proceedings in occupied country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zampolit View Post
    i would prefer some of you to be less exalted.
    Aww c'mon Zampolit just sharing the love.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    Aww c'mon Zampolit just sharing the love.)
    sorry i didnt catch the joke )

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmchairGeneral View Post
    A WOMAN suspected of recruiting more than 80 female suicide bombers has confessed to organising their rapes so she could later convince them that martyrdom was the only way to escape the shame.

    Samira Jassam, 51, was arrested by Iraqi police and confessed to recruiting the women and orchestrating dozens of attacks.

    In a video confession, she explained how she had mentally prepared the women for martyrdom operations, passed them on to terrorists who provided explosives, and then took the bombers to their targets.

    "We arrested Samira Jassim, known as 'Um al-Mumenin', the mother of the believers, who was responsible for recruiting 80 women'', Major General Qassim Atta said.

    "She confessed her responsibility for these actions, and she confirmed that 28 attempts had been made in one of the terrorists' strongholds,'' he said.

    Samira Jassim was arrested on January 21. She is allegedly linked to the Ansar al-Sunnah insurgent group.

    Two of the attacks for which Samira Jassim admitted responsibility in the video confession took place in Diyala province, in central Iraq, which is considered one of the most dangerous areas of the country.

    The Associated Press reports US military figures indicate at least 36 female suicide bombers attempted or carried out 32 attacks last year. Women are often allowed through military checkpoints without being searched, making it easier for them to hide explosives under their traditional robes.

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574...01-401,00.html
    And this is suprisingly horribly why?

    I was rewatching "Live and Let Die" today and it occurred to me that we do the same thing in our entertainment. Bond beds the girl of the baddie so she then becomes the prey of the baddie and her only hope is to work with Bond. Now, granted, it is willing to a stand point, it is of course for the side of good, but how often is the girl left to pay, how many millions do we show that this kind of action is acceptable?

    And it is not just entertainment. In Roman history, no woman could be executed who was a virgin. Hence, women were raped before they were executed, regardless of the age.

    And it is not just history. Alledgly, we use what I call KGB tactics on people. We make them work for us by forcing an unbearable situation on them. It's our problem but we make it their problem, too. For the KGB, it was direct extortion as in the Beirut hostages. For the good guys, it might be an innocent mistake or a not so innocent that gets turned into work as an informant or face something like $50K fine/50 years.

    Granted, one might argue that there is a difference, that with the women of the subject, they had no choice, but with the informants, they are a victim of their actions or carlessness.........but keep in mind that the world works on viewpoints and in certain cultures, if a woman is acting outside what is believed to be proper, then she deserves whatever she gets.

    Finally, using women to get past checkpoints, to draw people into the field of fire is a very old trick. Maybe if people learned of this trick, there would be less of a market to use women.

    On a side note: Colombia reported that their forces killed the senior woman operative in FARC the other day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowLeopard View Post
    In Roman history, no woman could be executed who was a virgin.
    ermm, St. Catherine of Alexandria, St. Euthalia of Leontini, St. Lucy of Syracuse, St. Febronia? Just a quick google search on "virgin martyr".

    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    So what's wrong with American bases in Iraq?
    Nothing. Did i ever say so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    ermm, St. Catherine of Alexandria, St. Euthalia of Leontini, St. Lucy of Syracuse, St. Febronia? Just a quick google search on "virgin martyr".
    I stand corrected. It may have been a particular section of the populace. I believe I came across the section when I was reading on imperial families and the various fates.
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    Snow Leopard,

    Montaigne in his Essays commented on that Roman practice. According to him, it was an example of bending the law so that ast to violates its spirit. I do not know how accurate his knowledge of Roman customs was, but he was describing the custom as it was understood in Renaissance France.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    WW2 under FDR rule. No-holds-barred fighting and concentration camps for our own citizens...ahh the good times...
    I always thought that FDR went pretty easy on the Axis countries.
    He rejected the idea that was proposed to completely de-industrialize Germany, and he laid the groundwork for the conditional surrender and easy occupation terms the Japanese received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neyzen View Post
    For those who plan to vomit his/her hatred against islam over this... Today random news: Sao Paulo / Brazil; 9 years old christian girl is pregnant from his christian step father. USA / Ohio; christian Kenneth Douglas had sex with many death women....

    There are (recorded) 4000 rapes in Iraq since US occupation. Youngest victim is 9 years old and oldest one is 64. Sometimes US soldiers also kill victims and their families. It is also known fact that many resistance fighter's women relatives were taken by US soldiers and they are disappeared.

    It is believed that Iraqis are not afraid of death as much as fear of sexual violence. So at the beginning of the occupation US Army also shared photos of their sexual harassments against Iraqis as dark propaganda.

    As a result of occupation, Iraq turned to hell and US gained some political and economical privileges in 21th century. I hope one day American oligarchy overs and other mothers and sisters don't experience that kind of free democracy too.
    First thing I must say about this statment is, Its call "WAR" for a reason! Now don't get me wrong its no excuse for it but in EVERY army of every nation there will be soldiers like that. To say it does not happen in any nations army is absurd! I don't need any proof nor will I make any excuse for my nations army. But it is war, and in war there are many casualties! Sad, worng but so true...
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