bull

Someone elses benefit?? wtf!!!

Its not someone else benefit.Its your responsibilty to see that none of your citizens or land is not used for destructive purposes on your neighbours land.How on earth can you make such statements "well if scums are coming from my ass,its not my responsibilty but yours to wipe it off.."

You are putting shame on your other sane pakistani friends over here.

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Neo

I'd love to start a new thread, but the subject it too damn sensitive

Neo

The jooooooos will kill me..

Samudra

Never you mind Neo.
Just start one.

Give a clean unbiased story and every one would follow up with their questions or answers or opinions.

Sensitive ? Yes.
Sensible ? That depends on how you make it.

Neo

I'll just stick to historical facts, play it safe

lemontree

That would be the correct way to go about it. , and this would clear many cobwebs for many people.
BTW Gen. Moshe Dayan happened to be one of my role models when I was a teenager.

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bull

Its your responsibility to see that you dont cause disturbances to your neighbour.Thats a gentle mans behaviour u shud know that.


But wht abt the '000 outside.That will take time i know,till then its your suty that htis not spill over to other territory.


So where they operating openly till date

lemontree

That "foreign force" happens to be your biggest benifactor and ally. Condemning is the easiest way out, and you also condemn when they cross over in hot-persuit and kill those scum in Pakistan.
But it looks like Musharraf has offered to build the fence alone.
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=54599
Let us see if this gets done, there can always be a slip between the cup and the lip.
The Indian fence on the LOC in J&K costed Rs.4.20 billion (aproxx USD 9.6 million)for 1682 kms of fencing. It requires 260 tons of cement, iron pickets and barbed wire to construct 1 km. So it should not be very difficult for Pakistan to make the fence.

Ludin

well they are very welcome to build a fence once we afghans take the land(pashtunistan and baluchistan) back.. so they can fence punjab and sindh..

Tronic

I think Afghanistan should concentrate more on building up economically and bringing stability, then afterwards Afghanistan can resolve its problems diplomatically because i'm sure there will be plenty of nations willing to back Afghanistan.... but it has to continue with the growth of stability and economy first...

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Ludin

there will be no stablitiy and security in afghanistan until we don't solve this DURRAND LINE issue.. the fight, suicide bombing will continue..

that is the thing.. stable afghanistan means dividing pakistan in half which pakistan doesn't want.. so pakistan is doing their best and will continue to do their best in destablizing afghanistan..

once this issue is resolved and afghansitan takes its land back than they can actually PROGRESS..

Tronic

Well, what ways do you think you will be able to solve that problem??? IMO, How about calling upon the UNSC for a vote in the Pashtun and Balcoh areas if they want to join Afghanistan? But for that, and diplomatic support to go through, Afghanistan has to be economically and diplomatically recognized... For THAT to happen, Afghanistan needs a strong and effective army to control the terrorists first....

Ludin

that is the problem.. thsoe terrorists are supported by ISI.. the only way to solve that problem is destruction of ISI.. your are an indian.. you tell me how much have they destablized india over a tiny part of kashmir?? remember pashtunistan and baluchistan make over half of pakistan.. baluchistan is where they get all their natural resources from and pashtunistan is where they get all their hydro energy from..

for the economy to grow afghistan needs SECURITY.. no investor will invest in a country where there is no security.. and pakistan is doing their best to create problems in afghanistan..

afghans are not involved in the current bombings.. it is the *****.. why would an afghan blow a bomb in a market and kill innocent afghans?? no reason.. if they want to blow some one than it would be only the westerners.. however 90% of the suicide bombings have killed only civilians in the cities..

Tronic

I agree with you that ISI is the problem but I wouldn't say they have destabilized India as a whole... they have destabilized parts of Kashmir, which ironically, even though being under constant terrorist threat have continued to grow...


agreed, but then Afghanistan has to boost up its security... As long as their is good internal security provided (including building up of Afghan intelligence agency to keep track of threats), investors will still invest. Take Israel for example, they are under constant threat from bombings and all yet they still have a vibrant economy... Another example is the Kargil Conflict between India and Pakistan; although their was practically a war being fought in Kashmir, India's stock market was actually growing by leaps... So yes, even if Pakistan is causing problems, first it would be wise to build up a strong effective detterent.. remember, first you have to build up your defenses before you start planning offensive capabilities.... Afghanistan needs to be strong defensively to be able to handle a lot of the security threats and it has to be strong offensively so as to be able to talk hardline on the terrorism issues with Pak...

Yes, it is without a doubt a work of ISI... even Indian engineers had been kidnapped and killed in Afghanistan, whereelse India does not even have any troops stationed in an offensive role... Indian troops are only in Afghanistan as a protection force for the Indian engineers stationed there trying to rebuild Afghanistan... only one country can be unhappy to see Indians there, and I doubt it is Afghanis...