Samudra

Where is the fatwa ?
Where is the damn fatwa ?

Here SriRangan , you just got one.
Dont ask too many uncomfortable questions.gRRR.

lemontree

Paletine is the original name (as known) and Israel was the biblical name of the region for the Jews (as the promised land by God). Today Jordan does bot occupy any major area of Palestine, they got kicked out during the 6 day war in 1967.

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Srirangan

Was there ever an historical "palestine" state? Anyhow the Brits dived the land betw Jews and Palestinians. So technically Jordan is the Palestinian state. We don't find the king of Jordan claiming any land from Israel do we? Btw Arabs, Turks and Persians through out history have occupied the so called "palestinian" state.

Think about it this way. Hyptothetically speaking, within India today what if there's a call for another "muslim" homeland? Should there be another country created? Or the "muslims" demanding the new homeland be asked to just go to Pakistan under the 1947 provisions?

Same. Palestinians demanding a new homeland need to migrate to Jordan. And if Israel does occupy territory, the leadership of Jordan should make the demands. Not Egypt, not Syria and definitely not the House of Saud.

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Asim Aquil

Right, we should pay for someone else's benefit?

Never get into trade.

Srirangan

Asim,
That's a very short sighted assesment by you. If I were the leader of Pakistan, I'ld take pains to get the fence built while the Americans are in Kabul. It's like almost solving all Pakhutnistan/Durrand Line Expiry controversy without even dealing with the Afghans.

Asim Aquil

That might be the Indian way of creating solutions, but Pakistan's just aiming to build a fence to help out the American forces, who keep getting attacked.

Till we have Pakistanis living on our side of the Durrand line, there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it.

In all probability the Afghans don't even have the document that was signed by the British in the 1800s.

bull

Asim there are three issues with it.

1.You/Pakistani govt admit they are the core of these jihadi scums

2.By building a fence you/pakistani govt admit they can do nothing to guard their borders

3.Again you/Pakistani govt is incapable of solving a problem which is emanating from there own land.

So the how will they protect their won citizens???

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Neo

Palestine issue is very complicated. If you really want to understand the Jewish claim in this land, you'll have to go way back in the history.
In a way the claim is leagle and illeagle at the same time...!!
I'd be more then happy to explain the historical and religous backgrounds abut this claim.

Asim Aquil

1. If you're talking about the people that go into Afghanistan and attack from the tribal areas? Yes those people are scums.

2a. We don't NEED to gaurd our borders. The scums as they may be, are attacking a foreign force. We condemn their attacks and feel responsibile thats why we'll pitch in to a cause that'll weaken their attempts to cross over.

2b. We've got bigger fish to fry in Pakistan, if someone's got a problem with the border, they should seal it. We're at least offering to do it mutually.

3. Actually if we wouldn't have done anything you wouldn't have hundreds of fighters armed with rifles ready to attack America, sitting in jails.

We see the by-product of protecting those American forces, as a means to protect our own. We've crushed the backbone of Al Qaida and they cannot operate in Paksitan openly any more.

Sameer

But most Al Queda leaders caught by the FBI so far have been found in Pakistani cities like Karachi, so I dont know how much one can use the tribal areas only send Jehadis excuse. Afterall there are training camps all around Pakistan. 15 mins outside of Lahore..... etc etc etc

Samudra

Hear , hear....

Srirangan

A lot of truth was said.

Sameer

There have been more terror attacks in the post 911 world, most terror leaders operate in Pakistani cities, US intel believes that musharaff is not in full command and believe that the ISI is providing valuable info to the terrorists because even though steps have been taken, they are not being caught.

The latest CIA assessment says that Al Queda has been able to recreate a crude command and control network again, the "crush" bruhaha does not appear to fit the reality on the ground.

lemontree

That would be great start another thread and we can exchange notes.

lemontree

But then that is the trump card of Pak Army to keep the US embroiled in Afghanistan. It keeps Pakistan as an WOT ally and she keeps getting the rent money from the US for the use of its bases.
My firend it is NOT Al Qaida that is attacking the US forces in Afghanistan but THE Taliaban. The Tabilbs are the ace up Musharaffs sleeve to keep the Afghans in check.