36 Ways the US Is Losing the War on Terror

**Donnie** · 05 Nov 04,, 21:20

Originally Posted by Ray

From what I understand, it appears that the 'educated' voted for Kerry and the 'hicks', hillybillies and the born again Christians and evangelists for Bush.

actualy ray most of america is moderate, they fall somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, successfull democrats like clinton where able to compramise just slighly enough to pull from the middle, its the key to liberal leadership, if democrats keep thier tone down they get elected. calling them hicks and hillybillies are what makes middle america look at the left as elitist, and since there is no strong middle candidate they have to shift to the right. strong moderate democrats are what most americans want as thier president.

**tarek** · 05 Nov 04,, 21:31

"It is one religion vs another"

Certainly that's the spin some want to leave us with, but really, it won't wash - How would one explain Clinton if this particular spin were to be examined carefully ??

Fact of the matter is tha Osama has little to do with religion, any religion, except to present his nihilism in a religious framework -- Osama claims, in his latest video that he did 9/11 as revenge for the invasion of lebanon, I think he's a quick study of kerry, - that's right, Osama's flip floper

**~~lulldapull~~** · 05 Nov 04,, 21:41

Originally Posted by donnie

actualy ray most of america is moderate, they fall somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, successfull democrats like clinton where able to compramise just slighly enough to pull from the middle, its the key to liberal leadership, if democrats keep thier tone down they get elected. calling them hicks and hillybillies are what makes middle america look at the left as elitist, and since there is no strong middle candidate they have to shift to the right. strong moderate democrats are what most americans want as thier president.

Right Donnie, thats why they elected a bible Bigot 'armageddonist'????

Yeah Ray thats what most Americans wanted! A moderate Democrat, and they saw it in this evangelist lovin bible Bigot!

God our country is totally fukked!

**Donnie** · 05 Nov 04,, 21:45

Originally Posted by lulldapull

Right Donnie,

thats all you had to say

its funny you warned ray that he would have to face my wrath, when your the only one wrathing. its that elitist attitude of yours and the left that drives the middle to the right, but your to self consumed to see it.

**Ray** · 05 Nov 04,, 22:18

Hey,

You guys are confusing me more than the media.

**Officer of Engineers** · 05 Nov 04,, 23:09

Originally Posted by Ray

Hey,

You guys are confusing me more than the media.

Sir,

I take the attitude that since I do not have a vote in the US Election, I would not bother with it. It's not worth the effort in trying to understand the issues. It is only after the election where now policy being made that has a direct effect on me that it is worth paying attention to.

**~~lulldapull~~** · 05 Nov 04,, 23:13

Originally Posted by donnie

thats all you had to say

its funny you warned ray that he would have to face my wrath, when your the only one wrathing. its that elitist attitude of yours and the left that drives the middle to the right, but your to self consumed to see it.

Looks like our buddy Donnie is a "God-fearing" bible lovin jeezer?

AaaaaaaaaahAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Gotcha Donnie!

Ray don't be side tracked by this guys vain attemps to paint himself as a "centre/ right/ middle class/ elitist hating/ armegeddonist/ bible humping"..... Cheese pumper!

you know what he is! He's a jeezer!

but wont admit it to it publicly.

**Confed999** · 06 Nov 04,, 01:27

Originally Posted by donnie

its funny you warned ray that he would have to face my wrath, when your the only one wrathing. its that elitist attitude of yours and the left that drives the middle to the right, but your to self consumed to see it.

Yep. Sad that people let their hate consume them.

**~~lulldapull~~** · 06 Nov 04,, 02:57

Originally Posted by Confed999

Yep. Sad that people let their hate consume them.

Oh so now 'a fundo christian suggestive innuendo/ connotation' somehow mysteriously is being deciphered as 'hate"???

thats hilarious Confed......

But I goto give it up though, that i probably wouldn't be here much if it wasn't for you and Smilling kiddo, or my new and very emotionally attached buddy 'Donnie'!

**Confed999** · 06 Nov 04,, 03:32

Originally Posted by lulldapull

Oh so now 'a fundo christian suggestive innuendo/ connotation' somehow mysteriously is being deciphered as 'hate"???

Because only someone that hates them would describe it that way.

Originally Posted by lulldapull

But I goto give it up though, that i probably wouldn't be here much if it wasn't for you and Smilling kiddo, or my new and very emotionally attached buddy 'Donnie'!

That's super... As long as you're nice about it...

**~~lulldapull~~** · 06 Nov 04,, 03:52

Hey now! After watching the Jerry Falwell Special or the Apocolyptic high energy Armegeddon special by Pat Robertson or Jimmy Swaggert on 'current Issues' it can only lead one to believe that them boys are nut cases!

the sad part though is that these boys are pretty close to the Govt. and their milions of jeezers control the ballot Confed!

now its appaling to me that the sizeable numbers of Americans that these zealots control, and that they are close to Dubbya! He's been singin their tune about his 'born again' or extra-terrestrial sort of experiences, where they showed him with billy Graham back in the 80's, after he got caught snorting coke

Graham converted that boy, and took away his bottle!

And now when you hear him say "my religion", and "my convictions" or "my Crusade" .........that makes him sound like a dangerous ' middle-eastern' man.

I tought even the Jeezers and these zealots are supposed to respect that divide between church and State. Apparently that dividing line has grayed out a lot in the last 4 years.

With direct attacks on abortion and gay laws and stem cell issue, coming from the right, someone's gotto stop this bigotry man. It appears the U.S. is slowly becoming a fundo state! And i strongly believe that when the beardo will attack us next, ( And attack us he will) our country will become more right wing and more fundo!

**Donnie** · 06 Nov 04,, 14:35

Originally Posted by Ray

Hey,

You guys are confusing me more than the media.

thats because the US is not black and white on every issue, as much as extremeist might like to make you think they are.

**Donnie** · 06 Nov 04,, 14:37

Originally Posted by lulldapull

But I goto give it up though, that i probably wouldn't be here much if it wasn't for you and Smilling kiddo, or my new and very emotionally attached buddy 'Donnie'!

thanks

**Donnie** · 06 Nov 04,, 14:39

Originally Posted by lulldapull

you know what he is! He's a jeezer!

but wont admit it to it publicly.

not sure what a jeezer is, enlighten me.

**Confed999** · 06 Nov 04,, 17:09

Originally Posted by lulldapull

Hey now! After watching the Jerry Falwell Special or the Apocolyptic high energy Armegeddon special by Pat Robertson or Jimmy Swaggert on 'current Issues' it can only lead one to believe that them boys are nut cases!

Your statements about them, are mirror image to theirs.

Originally Posted by lulldapull

and their milions of jeezers control the ballot Confed!

It was a pretty close race though huh? Kinda makes that "control" thing seem implauseable.

Originally Posted by lulldapull

now its appaling to me that the sizeable numbers of Americans that these zealots control, and that they are close to Dubbya!

How about the ones controlled by unions and people like Jackson, and how close they are to democrats. I don't actually believe any of them are under any kind of control.

Originally Posted by lulldapull

With direct attacks on abortion and gay laws and stem cell issue

Hmmmm, they tried to stop partial birth abortion, and no other form. They tried to give the gays, and everyone else, the right to civil unions. They stopped funding stem cell research, why is the government funding stem cell research anyway? If the republicans were funding it, then the liberals would have started shouting about pharmaceutical company pay offs.