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    'Pashtunistan' issues linger behind row

    I back the Afghans. Historically speaking, and also culturally and racially speaking, Baloch and Pashtuns are an Iranian peoples and have nothing in common with people of the subcontinent. Even geographically speaking Balochistan is apart of the Iranian plateau. Not that i give a toss whether these Baloch and Pashtun areas that became apart of pakistan are merged into Afghanistan or become separate countries, but yeah either way i have a number of Afghan friends and am in agreement with them on issues like this. Those two areas should be liberated and brought back into the sphere of West Asia.

    Not that i fully blame the ***** for creating these troubles with Baloch and Pashtun peoples tho. Its the British who are mainly to blame for screwing the people of their former colonies by carving up nations and making new ones by lumping different peoples together that have no history of unity.

    Too bad Oslonor is banned form here. Being a pan-Iranist i would like to read his thoughts on this article loL...

    I noticed his theory on Afghans being the real Persians got rebuked by Afghans themselves on another forum, LOL... Ah....


    'Pashtunistan' issues linger behind row

    Recent tensions between Kabul and Islamabad show that mutual suspicions still exist in an old dispute known as the "Pashtunistan question". And it is a question with a fundamental bearing on the foreign policies of both countries.

    By Ron Synovitz for RFE/RL (27/3/06)

    The idea of a Pashtun national homeland along the Afghan-Pakistan border has been largely dormant for the last 40 years. Dormant - but unresolved. And now, arguments from the century-old debate are surfacing again in a way that is affecting the international effort against terrorism.

    For many ethnic Pashtuns, "Pashtunistan" is an historic homeland that was divided in 1893 by the Durand Line - a 2,450 kilometer demarcation line drawn by a British cartographer through Pashtun tribal lands to suit the defensive needs of British colonial India.

    For Islamabad, the issue represents a territorial claim against Pakistan - particularly parts of Pakistan's Balochistan province and the tribal regions where Pakistani security forces are battling pro-Taliban militants. The reason is that Pakistan inherited the Durand Line from British colonial India as its northwestern border with Afghanistan.

    An old and pivotal dispute

    "The current tensions between Afghanistan and Pakistan are actually nothing new," says Barnett Rubin, an expert on Afghanistan at New York University's Center for International Cooperation. "They have been the normal state of relations between those two countries ever since the founding of Pakistan in 1947. Afghanistan was the only member of the UN General Assembly at that time to vote against the admission of Pakistan, on the grounds that it had not given the right of self-determination to its Pashtun inhabitants - and particularly those in the tribal territories. Afghanistan has never recognized the Durand Line between the two countries as an international border."

    Rubin says Pakistan's concerns about Pashtun territorial claims had been one of the reasons why "old-school elements" within Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence supported the Taliban during the 1990s.

    He says the issue also underscores why it was in the interests of Pakistan's foreign-policy goals for madrasahs to provide a fundamentalist Islamic education to the children of the millions of Afghan refugees who fled to Pakistan during the 1980s and 1990s.

    Pakistan "did have a long-term commitment, going back 30 years, toward supporting ethnic Pashtun religious extremists in Afghanistan in order to ensure that an Afghan government would side with Pakistan against India - and would not raise the issue of the Pashtun territory," Rubin says.

    The reason is that "Pashtun Islamists are not nationalists and do not support that kind of ethnic issue against a fellow Muslim country - unlike the Pashtun nationalists," Rubin says.

    Rubin also links the tensions between Islamabad and Kabul to Pakistan's concerns about the strengthening of ties between India and the government of Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

    "This is, of course, embedded within the competition in South Asia between Pakistan and India," he argues. "Throughout most of the period since 1947, Afghanistan has tended to be closer to India, which it uses to balance Pakistan. The government of Hamid Karzai has also resurrected the old policy of former Afghan governments of having direct relations between the Afghan government and Pashtun political leaders and tribes within Pakistan."

    Catching al-Qaida, not catching the Taliban?

    Ahmad Rashid, a Pakistani journalist and author of the book "Taliban", agrees that the Pashtunistan debate and the strengthening of Afghan-Indian ties are both sources of concern for Islamabad.

    Rashid says officials in Kabul think Islamabad has often turned a blind eye toward Taliban fighters in Pakistani territory over the past four years because some elements in Pakistan still want to use fundamentalists to influence the policies of the Afghan government.

    "Pakistan is doing quite a lot to catch the Arabs and al-Qaida," Rashid says. "But the Afghan accusation stems from the fact that [Kabul] believes Pakistan is differentiating between catching al-Qaida and not catching the Taliban."

    Rashid notes that as relations between Kabul and Islamabad have deteriorated, Pakistani officials have resurrected old accusations against Afghanistan. For example, Islamabad recently accused Kabul of supporting Indian agents along the Afghan-Pakistani border. It also has accused Kabul of aiding separatist movements by ethnic Pashtuns and ethnic Baluchis on Pakistan's side of the border:

    "Pakistan is saying that Afghanistan is interfering in Balochistan [province and that] it has allowed India to support the insurgency in Balochistan through its consulates in Kandahar and Jalalabad," Rashid says. "Pakistan is also saying now most recently that al-Qaida militants are arriving from Afghanistan and stirring up trouble in [the ethnic Pashtun tribal region of] Waziristan."

    Washington and the 'Pashtunistan question'

    Teresita Schaffer, director of the South Asia program at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, says the United States is trying to encourage Afghanistan and Pakistan to have the best possible relationship. But she says the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush does not seem to realize the sensitive nature of Pakistani-Afghan relations.

    Afghan Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah has been telling journalists in Washington this week that the West must have a better understanding of what he called "the continuing war of words" between Kabul and Islamabad. Abdullah says disagreements between the two countries must been seen in the context of "domestic and regional" relations as well as the international war against terrorism.

    On 23 March, Karzai told a counterterrorism conference in the Turkish capital, Ankara, that extremist tendencies and terrorism in Afghanistan have emanated from "political agendas and the pursuit of narrow interests by governments".

    Referring to Pakistan's support for the Taliban during the 1990s, Karzai described the rise of the movement as a kind of "hidden invasion propped up by outside interference and intended to tarnish the national identity and historical heritage" of Afghanistan.

    Samina Ahmed, an Islamabad-based expert with the International Crisis Group, says relations between Kabul and Islamabad are likely to worsen if violence in the border region escalates during the coming months. Ahmed says Islamabad is particularly concerned about how the dispute affects Pakistan's relations with Washington.

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    Karzai terms the Durrand line as invalid
    URL: http://www.india-defence.com/reports/1443
    Date: 6/3/2006

    Peshawar: Dubbing Durand line as a line of hatred Afghan President Hamid Karzai has said he does not accept this line as it has raised a wall between the two brothers.

    He said this while talking to the journalists after offering condolence over the death of Khan Abdul Wali Khan.

    Karzai described the demise of Wali Khan as an irreparable loss to the whole world, especially for Pakhtuns and other nations in the region. The Afghan president hailed Wali Khan as an unforgettable and towering figure in the region’s political history, who had devoted his entire life to brining prosperity to the people.

    The last surviving son of the illustrious Khudai Khidmatgar Movement founder Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan passed away on January 26 after a protracted illness at the ripe age of 89. Wali Khan was not a leader of Pakhtuns in Pakistan alone; he was a venerable figure for all Pakhtuns around the world and that is why I have come here today to represent the Afghan nation in offering condolences to his family, Karzai remarked.

    Karzai sympathised with Wali Khan's son and ANP central president Asfandyar Wali Khan and Begum Nasim Wali Khan. The bereaved family thanked Karzai for showing so much of respect to the former opposition leader, saying it was reflective of the strong bonds of fraternity between Pakhtuns on both sides of the border.

    We appreciate President Karzai's visit, which really signifies that the Afghan nation and we are like body and soul that can never be separated, said Asfandyar Wali Khan.

    After offering fateha, Karzai spoke of the issues he discussed with the Pakistani leadership during his three-day visit. In response to accusations by some quarters in Pakistan that Afghanistan was inciting violence in Balochistan, Karzai said his country remained a victim of terrorism and thus unable to foment trouble elsewhere.

    Unfortunately, Afghanistan itself is suffering terrorism and is unable to create problems for others, reiterated the Afghan leader, who claimed Pakistan had held out a firm assurance to act against miscreants intent upon creating instability in his country.

    Karzai assured Afghanistan would not let any one to spoil the relationship between the two nations. We will not allow any country, any government with whom Afghanistan has relations, to interfere in our ties with Pakistan, or to use our soil against Pakistan.

    About the killing of three Chinese engineers in Balochistan and its possible links to Afghan warlords and Indian consulates in Afghanistan, the visiting leader said his administration was keeping an eye on such elements. He, however, asserted warlordism and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan were a thing of the past.

    Regarding the presence of high-value targets in the region, Karzai admitted there was a need to intensify the exchange of information for the sake of stability in Afghanistan. He also referred to the ongoing reconciliation campaign, spearheaded by former president Sibghatullah Mujaddedi.

    The Taliban figures, with no links to al-Qaeda or other terrorist organisations, had been asked to return and find jobs in the government or other institutions, said Karzai, who went on to mention the example of Maulvi Arsala Rehmani.

    However, he hastened to explain the offer was not for Mullah Omer, who is answerable to the Afghan people, to the Muslims for the crimes against Islam, stopping children from going to schools.
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