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    BTW, before the USAF converted it's wing of BUFF's to harpoon, the USAF's standard antiship weapon was(get this), the AIM-7M Sparrow!

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    OTH=Over the Horizon, right? How is that possible? Where/how do they get target acquisition?
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    Even with target aquistion, a damn Sparrow couldnt hit the broad side of a barn

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    LOL, like it or not, that was thier primary ASuW weapon.

    Actually, a certain A-10 driver that used to frequent another site, by the name of Alfa Kilo(sure BR remembers him) said that they worked great in the role.

    Think about it, a ship is a huge unmanuevering(by AAM standards) target, and Sparrow was a Mach 4 missile with decent stand of range in that sort of flight profile(if i had to guess i'd say 50 miles from high altitude).

    If a 4 ship of Eagles salvo'd 4 Sparrow's each, it would be pretty effective against most ships.

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    "OTH=Over the Horizon, right? How is that possible? Where/how do they get target acquisition?"

    From the extremely powerful APS-137 ISAR radar mounted in the nose.

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    I remember AK. Yeah, but how would the radar go over the horizon and than bounce back to where the plane was? If the plane maneuevered they'd lose the reflection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M21Sniper
    LOL, like it or not, that was thier primary ASuW weapon.

    Actually, a certain A-10 driver that used to frequent another site, by the name of Alfa Kilo(sure BR remembers him) said that they worked great in the role.

    Think about it, a ship is a huge unmanuevering(by AAM standards) target, and Sparrow was a Mach 4 missile with decent stand of range in that sort of flight profile(if i had to guess i'd say 50 miles from high altitude).

    If a 4 ship of Eagles salvo'd 4 Sparrow's each, it would be pretty effective against most ships.
    Interesting,
    Not that is the sort of thing you just don't read about on the weapons catagory sites... I don't doubt it, but I am suprised.

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    OK. so what anti-ship weapons apart from 5in will it have?

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    "I wonder what the theoretical maximum number of Harpoons a -52 could carry?"

    16 is the authorized number.

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    "OK. so what anti-ship weapons apart from 5in will it have?"

    SM-2.

    Lots of them.

    Block 1 RAM also has an anti-ship mode, and though i've never seen it reported, i'd be shocked if ESSM wasn't anti-ship capable also.

    Pretty much all SARH weapons are anti-ship capable, including the mighty Phoenix AAM(and the AMRAAM AAM). It's a matter of the launch platform having the right surface engagement modes for it's radar.

    I know for a fact that an SPG-62 FCR illuminator can target ships(it has to for the SM-2s), so odds are, the ESSM can ride the same beam onto a surface target the SM-2 does.

    What i'm not sure about is whether an SM-2 Block IIIB with IR terminal homing can home on a ship on it's terminal approach without illuminator support. If it could, that would be a pretty nasty surprise, because the target wouldn't be tipped off by the SPG-62s emmisions.
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    is the "SPG-62 FCR illuminator " for surface craft or aircraft, I'm confused

    I know there was an SM-2 board, but its late so sorry I'll ask. What is warhead on SM-2? Isn't SM-2 AA as well?

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    The SPG-62 is the fire control radar on US Aegis class warships.

    SM-2 is anti-air, anti-ship, and anti-surface. If the target can be illuminated by the FCR, then the target can be hit with SM-2s. This would include coastal land based targets.

    SM-2 has a 165lb warhead, but more importantly, hundreds of pounds of unextinguishable rocket fuel.

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    sounds very versatile. points to whoever designed it.

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    That would be Raytheon, the makers of pretty much all US missile systems.

    They are very good at what they do.

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    well... doing a little searching on here for the USS Houston and the ABDA fleet during the battle of Sunda Strait, I ran across this thread..

    I'm sitting in CSMC onboard the USS Momsen DDG 92 right now as I'm typing this, after having been assigned to the Momsen since May 1 2003, yes I'm a plankowner. I attended the Christening of her in Bath, and it's funny, but looking at my watch, the bottle broke across the bow at 11:02 am on August 9th.. (a rather significant date and time in history, since that's to the minute that the bomb exploded over Nagasaki)

    I will depart for the last time the Momsen on September 1st and head to Florida for the Navy's recruiting school.

    I've had some good times on here, some bad, but I will always remember this ship and hope that she has a great future ahead of her.

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