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    And a practical understanding of combat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blidgepump View Post
    "There never is a convenient place to fight a war when the other man starts it." Arleigh Burke
    I haven't read the book in almost a dozen years. I liked it.

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    ...reading list...

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    Thank you for the heads up, I'll order the book from the library today.

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    Victory markings on a destroyer

    A sailor applies victory markings to a gun director on board a destroyer.
    From the markings the destroyer appears to have conducted a shore bombardment( left) and splashed two IJN fighters (center) and two bombers ( right). Note the vivid color photo captures the daily wear of a USN sailor.

    Note the steady hand of the artist as the DD is underway, too.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by blidgepump View Post
    A sailor applies victory markings to a gun director on board a destroyer.
    From the markings the destroyer appears to have conducted a shore bombardment( left) and splashed two IJN fighters (center) and two bombers ( right). Note the vivid color photo captures the daily wear of a USN sailor.

    Note the steady hand of the artist as the DD is underway, too.......
    High above the water line the "Sailor / artist" applied the DD's success in battle at the location identified by the arrow.
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    Just above the sailor's foot that is painting the victory marking is a bar that extends around the gun director. You see these bars all around any ship for that matter. In the pic with the arrow, you see them on the sides at the base of the forward mounts. Looks like at the top as well. Are they for when sailors paint? So the have a foot and hand hold when they are painting those area's?

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    Bars, Attachment, or ???

    The metal device(s) you reference are located across the exterior of the Fletchers appear to be a hard point to tie off for painting?

    Given the size of a Fletcher, having a place to tie ones person in rolling seas could be another reason for the "bars".
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    Quote Originally Posted by blidgepump View Post
    The metal device(s) you reference are located across the exterior of the Fletchers appear to be a hard point to tie off for painting?

    Given the size of a Fletcher, having a place to tie ones person in rolling seas could be another reason for the "bars".

    Yeah, I was thinking it could be something as simple as a "Hand rail" to grab onto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ytlas View Post
    Yeah, I was thinking it could be something as simple as a "Hand rail" to grab onto.
    Exactly correct. The "bar" the sailor's right foot is under is a "footrail". Normall a foot is put ON it rather than under it. But for this artist's task he is placing his foot where he has the best personal balance for painting those straight lines of red on white.

    The bar above is a "handrail". These rails are designed to be used for crewmen for painting, repair or maintenance of the item they are attached to. Normally the crewman stands on the footrail and holds onto the handrail with one hand. BUT, with the other hand he is supposed to attach a line from a basic safety belt so he can use both hands for the work he is assigned to do.

    But that upper bar could also be used as a footrail if a crewman had to climb higher to work on the antenna array itself.

    In WW II, ships had handrails and footrails all over the place as they were more susceptible to weathering and battle damage than ships of today. Our paint formulas then weren't very long lasting and radical weather changes could flake it off quite easily. Also areas that ricochetted 7.7mm Arisaka bullets from a strafing Nakajima or splinter damage from a suicide Mitsubishi that took a 5"/38 in a cylinder head would need to be touched up afterwards.

    So if you already had handrails, footrails and padeyes for bosun's chairs already welded in place you could do your maintenance and repairs quickly and safely.
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    Yes, handrails are very useful to attach your hand or safety line
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    Porthole Cleaner ?

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    Yes, handrails are very useful to attach your hand or safety line
    TBM...Is that you tied off to the island?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbm3fan View Post
    Yes, handrails are very useful to attach your hand or safety line

    Not really, you can't see internal corrosion and if your line has too much slack that is a lot of force. More than a few workers have fallen to their death even though they where tied on for using an unrated anchor point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blidgepump View Post
    TBM...Is that you tied off to the island?

    Porthole cleaner? True, given how many I had to clean paint off the glass and brass due to crew spraying everything in their path. Yes, that is me cleaning residue off the Pri-Fly windows in 1998 before the ship opened as a museum.

    I understand the comment about unrated handholds or more to the point deteriorated handhold anchor points. I would usually go around checking them with a 3lb. mallet to see if rusted or not. The handholds are generally in good shape however it is the gratings I walk on where you can have issues. I must use them to access the area outside Pri-Fly, Captain's Un-Rep station and the roof panels over the Admiral's bridge.

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    Impact Testing

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    Porthole cleaner? True, given how many I had to clean paint off the glass and brass due to crew spraying everything in their path. Yes, that is me cleaning residue off the Pri-Fly windows in 1998 before the ship opened as a museum.

    I understand the comment about unrated handholds or more to the point deteriorated handhold anchor points. I would usually go around checking them with a 3lb. mallet to see if rusted or not. The handholds are generally in good shape however it is the gratings I walk on where you can have issues. I must use them to access the area outside Pri-Fly, Captain's Un-Rep station and the roof panels over the Admiral's bridge.
    Sea Salt and metal = corrosion

    TBM, good to know the skill required to inspect hard points. It sounds as if the 3-lb hammer test has not changed since the day of the Cave Man ?

    It is amazing the locations that a protective coating of paint will appear when touring a ship. Blessed are those who have to clean up the splatters, overspray and drips.
    The volunteers keep the Kidd is remarkable condition. The Barry needs some of your attention to detailing......
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    Sea Salt and metal = corrosion

    In a VERY big way.

    Painting those ships is a labor of love, expensive, time consuming and the clean up takes forever as you can imagine. We are fortunate that we have the guys that we do for they do a very good job and not just slapping paint on but by replacing metal, priming it with good quality rust preventitve and then paint itself. A never ending process if your a painter.

    The Brass Teams deserve the very same credit...a never ending job and it makes them look great.

    You will notice the gage face indicates "PSIG" = Pounds per Square Inch Gage.

    Still not in that bad of condition considering the last time it was calibrated was "79".
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