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MoD may sell aircraft carrier to India to limit cuts IDRW.ORG
One of Britain’s new £2bn aircraft carriers could be sold off under cost-cutting plans being considered by the Ministry of Defence. India has lodged a firm expression of interest, the Observer has learned.
The sale of one of the two 65,000-tonne vessels would leave the Royal Navy with a single carrier and could force Britain to borrow from the French fleet, which itself has only one carrier and is reluctant to build more. Last summer the French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, proposed to Gordon Brown that the two navies co-ordinate maintenance and refitting so that one was at sea at all times.
According to senior defence sources, Whitehall officials are examining the feasibility of a sale as part of the strategic defence review that will start early next year and is expected to result in savage cuts.
The carrier programme has already been delayed by two years to push back spending commitments, which itself will end up costing the taxpayer more in the long run. BAE Systems began work in July on HMS Queen Elizabeth, which is due to come into service in 2016. Preparatory work on the Prince of Wales, due for launch in 2018, has also started. The two carriers will replace the ageing Invincible class and are three times the size.
There were fears that the government could scrap one altogether. But it is understood that the financial penalties would be prohibitive. About 10,000 jobs in Portsmouth, Barrow-in-Furness, Fife and Glasgow depend on the orders.
-----It may just be a fluke show by the Indian government but it brings up more interesting questions...is the condition so bad in britain,,first the reduction in the SSBN numbers and now this:
Ps.I dont think we should buy this...too costly!!!!
As compared the the Gorshkov ?
I mean after spending so much on Gorshkov it dose'nt make sense spending more..if it was offered first that would have been different.As compared the the Gorshkov ?
Just as well since you will never have the opportunity.
Not going to happen.
Sunday paper story, take it with a pinch of salt.
(Obligatory warning, link goes to TV Tropes)
Liquidating what is left of the legacy of the empire?
Britain isn't selling or retiring any SSBNs. Where'd you hear that nonsense?
As for the carrier being sold to India? lolz
Well, they have to do something while they wait another 10 years for the Gorshkov to come online....
You know JJ, Him could do it....
They Also have a carrier under construction in one of their own yards.
A Cavour scaled up for STOBAR ops using Mig-29K as I understand it.
But aren't the QE ships going to take almost that long to build anyway?
Maybe the UK should sell the plans to India. That way, India saves time and $$$, the UK recovers some $$$ and the RN doesn't loose the carrier...
Let's not exaggerate it. Unless the deal breaks down completely, it's not gonna be longer than 4, MAX 5 years.
India's gonna build 2 carriers of her own in the next 10 years, anyway. Smaller than England's ofc..but it does the job.
IMO, If true, It would be the worst move Brown has made to date. If they sell one of those carriers to anyone they are complete fools. You might as well forget every taxpayer dime you sunk into the R&D program and go hand the blueprints of the carriers to the Russian naval intelligence services. If they sell one theres a 98% chance thats going to happen anyway.
Afterall ,the way the Gorshkov deal milked the Indians of funds to rebuild the Russian ship yard where Gorshkov was being refitted will need a new project to keep jobs and payoffs going, what better then a carbon copy state of the art carrier program with blueprints supplied by a nation known to purchase Russian military equipment and at points bend to their pressure. Thats not an insult to our Indian friends but it is a grim reality without doubt.
Even Russian Admirals have called for a large carrier program but it is no doubt slowed by a weak economy for now. They would jump at the chance to forego the expense and years of R&D among other things. Its all a win/win for them so Brown should leave making that decision to others instead of himself. Those that have a country to defend instead of a people to make happy for election results. Its that important.
Last edited by Dreadnought; 16 Nov 09, at 17:48.
Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
I wonder how many of our carriers would retire before the Gorshkov enters service.
So far, the Shitty Kitty, The JFK, and the Connie have retired while Gorshkov was being refitted. Think the Gorshkov can enter service before the Enterprise retires?
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There's a question in my mind：Since India buy many Foreign weapons（it also comes from different nations），Will it not bring many difficulties in the maintenance of weapons？Is India's logistics very strong ？
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