China's new naval shiip building base

**IDonT** · 15 Jul 08,, 17:17

Analysis: New Facility Offers Carrier Building Capability - SinoDefence.com

If you scroll down to the last pic (the scale model) a carrier is shown in dry dock.

If you guys are interested, here is what is going on with the Varyag.
THE RISING SEA DRAGON IN ASIA VARYAG TRANSFORMATION

**ArmchairGeneral** · 15 Jul 08,, 18:18

Nice pics.

**Master Chief** · 16 Jul 08,, 20:22

The Luyang I/II class destroyers are indeed good ships, but the missile system the SA-N-12 is only a knock-off version of the russian SA-N-7 Gadfy.

The PLAN first obtained the Shtil system in the later 1990s as a part of the weapon package for the two Project 956 Sovremenny class destroyers it ordered from Russia. The missiles equipped by these destroyers are believed to be the standard 9M38/SA-N-7 variant, which is guided by the MAE-5 Top Plate 3D circular scan radar for target tracking and the Front Dome (two radar for each launcher, each radar with three guidance channels) indication radar for missile guidance. The system can direct three missiles to attack up to three targets simultaneously. The missile has a maximum range of 25km.

The PLA Navy has also purchased at least four Shtil systems to be installed on its Type 052B Guangzhou class missile destroyer, each with two systems (one front, one rear). These systems use the improved 9M317/SA-N-12 variant of the missile with an extended range of 38km against aircraft and 20km against anti-ship cruise missile. As well as being guided by the Russian-made radar systems, these missiles can also be directed by two electro-optical directors in clear weather for improved anti-jamming performance.

They are finally getting some good air-defense on there ships.

Here is a great link on some of there air-defense systems.
Chinese Defence Today - HQ-61 Ship-to-Air Missile

Above the HQ-61 system. JUNK!

**IDonT** · 16 Jul 08,, 21:21

The PLAN also has 2 051C destroyers fitted with the S-300 sam system. (48 missile total)

Then there is the 2 052C with the HQ-9 Sam system (Chinese derivative of the S-300 sam).

A total of 48 indigenous HQ-9 air defence missiles are housed in eight 6-cell vertical launch systems (VLS). Unlike the Russian-style revolver VLS, the Type 052C’s VLS is fixed with each launch cell having its own lid. The missile system utilises the ‘cold launch’ method, in which the missile was first ejected from the launch tube, and then ignites its rocket engine at low altitude. This launch method avoids the complex flame and gas exhausting pipes on the Western-style ‘hot launch’ VLS, and also decreases damage to the ship structure caused by the rocket motor blast.

The naval variant HQ-9 was developed from the land-based HQ-9 surface-to-air missile system developed in the 1990s. The missile may have adopted some Russian S-300 rocket motor and control technologies, with a “Track via Missile” (TVM) guidance system developed from the U.S. Patriot missile technology. The missile is housed inside a cylinder shape container, which is placed inside the VLS. The missile is guided by an unknown type of guidance radar with multi-target engagement capability.

**Master Chief** · 16 Jul 08,, 23:49

Thank you for the info.

The Type 051C (NATO codename: Luzhou class) is the air-defence missile destroyer built by Dalian Shipyard for the PLA Navy. The first-of-class, Shenyang (hull No.115), was launched in December 2004 and completed its system installation in late 2005. The sea trial began in early 2006 and the ship was finally commissioned in October 2006. A second hull Shijiazhuang (hull No.116) was launched in 2005 and commissioned in March 2007. Both hulls are deployed by the North Sea Fleet based at Qingdao.

S-300F Rif Missile System

The most noticeable feature of the Type 051C is its Russian-built S-300F (also known as Rif, NATO reporting name: SA-N-6) air defence missile system. Each S-300F missile complex consists of six large-size revolver vertical launching systems (VLS), each housing eight ready-to-launch missiles. Two revolver VLS are installed underneath the bow deck behind the main gun, and four inside the aft deckhouse on the stern ahead of the helicopter flight deck, carrying a total of 48 missiles.

The 5V55RM missile uses the semi-active radar-homing (SARH), capable of engaging airborne targets at a range of 1.2~90km and an altitude between 25m and 30km. The missile is guided by the 3R41 Volna (NATO codename: Top Dome) phased-array target tracking radar (I/J-band, 100km range) installed on top of the stern deckhouse. The radar can direct 12 missiles to engage 6 targets simultaneously. Since two radars are required to give 360º coverage (as, for example, in the Russian Kirov class cruiser), this means that there is a blind gap in full SAM cover in the forward quadrant, resulting in a major tactical restriction.

As shown in its land-based equivalent S-300PMU, the S-300F missile was proven to be highly effective against airborne targets and was found on all Soviet/Russian cruisers built after 1980. The PRC ordered two sets of the S-300F/Rif system from Russia in 2002.