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Good luck on getting India to admit how much money or bombs that India made. Those information are way above Class B info protected. We can only conjure.
He was a dumbass.
Hopefully door hit him on it on the way out...
Good luck on getting India to admit how much money or bombs that India made. Those information are way above Class B info protected. We can only conjure.
India would not make much noise its efforts to match up to China in nuclear Deterance.
GoI aint very intrested in an arms race with the PRC now.
If its there , it would just be there , without us never knowing.IIRC Agni costed somewhere around 20 crores.10 or 20 per wouldnt be hard , but dont forget we need men
and that they need to be trained , trains for hauling these train mobiles missiles , warheads ,money for maintaining them (remember you need to launch them at short notices) and the list could just go on.
After having read a book on indian nuke program , i believe it would be a safe bet to say India *today* does posses a very effective second strike capablity.That it will annihilate Pakistan is a fact that even COAS acknowledges.
Remember reading a interview of the CNS about nuclear deterance being present above and below the seas......and you arent supposed to ask any more questions about that or so the CNS thinks.
What i am confident is , come what may , India would be ready with a nuclear powered submarine armed with either SLBM or SLCMs by the end of this decade.What i am not sure is , how China would respond to this.Do they even need to respond ?
The trick is to make China believe that they dont need to respond(which if they do can trigger an arms race very unfavourable to India).
An effective second strike capablity?? What exactly does this mean in the absence of a ballistic missile submarine force? If MAD is assured with the first strike, the point of the second strike capablity as vulnerable as the first strike capablity, would be...?
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Sir, Globalsecurity pegged the Chinese arsenal at 300-850 warheads, India at ~65, Pakistan at ~40.
And here is where the numbers game come into play. Currently, India does not have a counter-force option, ie be able to launch a strike against Chinese nuclear forces and still retain enough of a second strike capability. So, the question, is how many systems do you need in order to suffer a Chinese 1st strike (I mean systems, not warheads) and still retain a credible 2nd strike?
An advantage (or disadvantage depending on your PoV) when trying to read democrazies, the budgets are public knowledge. Someone, somewhere, is anal enough to add up all the numbers and subtract all those numbers and give a reasonable boundaries to some black projects. Not accurate but reasonable.
Pretty hard to hide.
Chimo
THE completed nuclear system includes air(strike,and defence),ground(strike and defence),navy,esp refers to nuclear submarines which can eject balastic missile with nuclear warheads.I think india is far from reaching this goal,even though he has a relatively strong air forces and navy fleet.and most of his advanced weapon
was introduced from russia and eu at tremendous cost of dollars.
Unlike india,china have it,s own completed nuclear system.They can attack anywhere on the earth they want to. Anyway,by the speedy economic growth,india will minimize the gap with nuclear super powers(Usa,russia,and china).
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If there was ever going to be another war between India nad Pakistan, and if India won(no matter how, by nuclear or conventional means), then I don't think India would try to integrate Pakistan into its own territory. And I think it would be the wise thing to do.
Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage.
I thought India had some experience operating nuclear vessels? Didn't they rented one nuclear sub in 90s?
Yeah IN operated INS Chakra (NATO Charlie Class) boat, leased from then USSR.
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I think I also read somewhere that Russia would be leasing India a nuke submarine.....
Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage.
How does China use only 24 billion dollars to support its enormous army? Its soldiers must be getting paid kibbles and bits. How can it afford to maintain the yearly costs of weapons and endure new military project costs?
I would say in the ballpark of around 250 warheads to 400 warheads and the range of the missiles would have to be around 6000 kms to cover all of China launching from way deep south in Indian territory.
Maybe so, but some things are not covered in public budgets. One thing may mean for something else, something innocent, or it is just never reported. Honestly I would say that India has around 100 warheads and Pakistan has less just because Pakistan only has one breeding reactor or something like that while India has a couple breeding reactor and has been at it for much longer than Pakistan did.
But we do know how much money the GOI takes in. That's the law.
Chimo
Audit Reports on the Union Governments (India)
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