ghost fleet

**Ken_NJ** · 04 Mar 12,, 14:20

It would be!

Initially, it will be anchored about four miles offshore near Long Beach, where more work on the hull will be done.

What could be done to the hull four miles offshore?

**NavyDoc** · 04 Mar 12,, 18:30

My guess is that they will be doing soundings and internal inspections for problem areas!
But, we all know who has the answer to this question! I am sure there will be a response soon and we'll again learn something new!

**GrayGhost1975** · 04 Mar 12,, 19:35

I'm sure at some point Rusty will fill us in on this.

**RustyBattleship** · 04 Mar 12,, 21:03

Originally Posted by GrayGhost1975

I'm sure at some point Rusty will fill us in on this.

Well, I heard the Lane Victory was going to do this, but this is the first news release I have seen on it. We will probably have a fleet of small boats, fire boats, etc. "escorting" her in. Right now I'm trying to make contact with an historic airplane group up in Port Hueneme to fly their B-25 over us as well as provide a fly-over for our North Long Beach Veterans Day parade in November. A Mitchell (or any number up to and including 16) is a good choice as this year is the 70th anniversary of the Jimmy Doolittle Raid.

**USSWisconsin** · 04 Mar 12,, 21:09

How about a nice photo display of Builder2010's Missouri model? - that would make a nice little addition to the event, perhaps along with a detailed photo essay of an Iowa class battlehips in WWII trim. She has changed so much over her career, some views of the various configurations she and her sisters were in, along with a timeline of series photos of Iowa herself, from keel being laid up to today.

**GrayGhost1975** · 04 Mar 12,, 23:13

PBC already has a 1/96 scale model of the Iowa in her WWII configuration on display up here in Richmond. It's not finished yet, but it's done enough to contrast Iowa then and now.

**Dreadnought** · 05 Mar 12,, 02:09

Originally Posted by Ytlas

I wasn't aware there was another catamaran besides the Pigeon and the Ortolan. I pretty much had my fill with the Pigeon.

Our shop worked three shifts a day insulating the piping from the diesel exhaust inside the smoke stacks, from the bottom all of the way to the top. Not a lot of room inside.

Actually Ytlas there were originally 26 hulls ordered of that particular class. Some are still in service today.

Pigeon and sisters were submarine rescue ships (ARS Hull)

These CATS (Hayes) were accoustic research ships for the sub programs and others. TAG hulls.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/57/57idx.htm

**Ytlas** · 05 Mar 12,, 02:25

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Actually Ytlas there were originally 26 hulls ordered of that particular class. Some are still in service today.

Pigeon and sisters were submarine rescue ships (ARS Hull)

These CATS (Hayes) were accoustic research ships for the sub programs and others. TAG hulls.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/57/57idx.htm

Howdy Pardner. I looked all around the link and only saw the ships that were only pointy in one spot up front.

I did run across a link that said the ship was the only one of it's class.
Ex - USNS Hayes (T-AG-195) Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

**dmwnc1959** · 08 Mar 12,, 08:11

Well someone pulled a fast one on me. Tug Marine Retriever which was towing (?) PYRO is now showing in Marine Traffic AIS off of the central coast of Baja California heading northbound. She must have dropped off the tow at Balboa and is returning home. Another 'first' since I have been watching these tows over the last couple of years. I wonder what has happened to PYRO?

**Admiral Nelson** · 08 Mar 12,, 14:39

It said over on the USS PYRO website that there would be a change of tugs at Balboa. It does not say what tug would be picking her up, though.

**ChrisV71** · 08 Mar 12,, 15:49

Roughneck is back at anchor at the Pacific End of the Canal. The fact that Marine Retriever is that far back north already implies she handed Pyro off somewhere around the southern Mexican Coast, which could coincide with Roughneck's last path. Interestingly AIS had said Roughneck is Decommissioned or Lost, but at the same time has been tracking her.

**dmwnc1959** · 08 Mar 12,, 17:10

THANKS for the updates! I did find another website that verifies ROUGH NECK is now towing PYRO.

Here's the other website:

USS Pyro AE-24

The Pyro Association website mentions an ETA in New Orleans of around March 20th "give or take a few days".

http://www.usspyro.com/

Originally Posted by ChrisV71

Roughneck is back at anchor at the Pacific End of the Canal. The fact that Marine Retriever is that far back north already implies she handed Pyro off somewhere around the southern Mexican Coast, which could coincide with Roughneck's last path.

I was actually watching Marine Traffic very early this morning while monitoring Cunard's Queen Victoria when Rough Neck appeared on AIS.

I did see Rough Neck heading out on AIS about 7-10 days ago and wondered where she was heading off to. Now I know!

**Admiral Nelson** · 08 Mar 12,, 18:24

If you like watching things on AIS two tugs have shown up to pull AIDE out of the Suisun Bay Reserve Fleet and tow her over to Mare Island.

There have been some changes to the sequence of ships being removed. The dates are now:

AIDE 03/08 to 03/21
ADVENTURER 03/22 to 04/09
AMBASSADOR 03/22 to 04/09
AGENT 04/11 to 04/24
GLACIER 04/17 TO 05/02

Mean while, some people are worried about ocean contaminants due to proposed Navy SINKEXes: FOX News article.

I like this quote from Richard Jaross:

The waters of the world aren't dumping grounds for getting rid of old things. It's totally irresponsible of our government to use them for target practice.

Of course, Richard Jaross just happens to be co-owner of ESCO Marine in Brownsville, TX.

**dmwnc1959** · 08 Mar 12,, 18:36

Thanks! I did notice the dry dock was flooded and the gate was open so I figured something was due shortly. Being that I am unfamiliar with those five ships I'll have to do some homework tonight at work at study up in them.