Worlds Top Ten Submarines

**Dreadnought** · 16 May 07,, 17:24

While flipping through the channels last night the Military channel was reviewing sub warfare and technology. They ran the list of the worlds top 10 submarines. This is not to say they are correct but here is the listing and country.

1) Type 7 Uboat-Germany
2) Seawolf Class- U.S.A.
3) Gato class- U.S.A.
4) T-Class or T Boat-Britain
5) Nautilus- U.S.A.
6) X craft- Britain
7) I-400 class- Japan
8) Typhoon Class- Russia
9) " " Class- Germany
10) George Washington- U.S.A.

Sorry didnt catch the class for #9 it is also German.

These were rated by Firepower,Technology, Speed, Stealth, Fear Factor and Endurance. For the older WWII class they were also rated for "kills".

**Tarek Morgen** · 16 May 07,, 17:45

the second German one has to the new 212 types submarines, Fuel-cell, can stay submerged for almost a month (without being a nuclear sub), and more silent than pretty much everything else, and completly constructed out of non magnetic material increasing stealth and avoiding danger from naval mines.

The next group of 212er might even get a retractable 30mm cannon.

**Dreadnought** · 16 May 07,, 17:56

I was amazed that Germany built over 700 of the Type 7. They claimed that they were the most built subs in any class. But also incurred the most losses during WWII. They were certainly on of the most agile u boats ever created.

**dundonrl** · 16 May 07,, 20:28

this should have been broken up into 2 types.. modern (diesel and nuke) and WW1/WW2 era boats.. it's completely illogical to class a diesel boat of WW2 with a modern nuke IMHO...

**BenRoethig** · 18 May 07,, 18:18

Originally Posted by Tarek Morgen

the second German one has to the new 212 types submarines, Fuel-cell, can stay submerged for almost a month (without being a nuclear sub), and more silent than pretty much everything else, and completly constructed out of non magnetic material increasing stealth and avoiding danger from naval mines.

The next group of 212er might even get a retractable 30mm cannon.

At 4 knots. SSKs, even the AIP ones are really only good if used in a defensive nature. Used offensively, they run out of AIP fuel and batteries very quickly. On the surface, they're dead meat. Nuclear subs, the Seawolf, on the other hand, being nuclear is able to actively hunt. Don't get me wrong, the Type 212 is a good boat for what it does, but it's still not even in the same league as a nuke boat.

**BenRoethig** · 18 May 07,, 18:19

Originally Posted by dundonrl

this should have been broken up into 2 types.. modern (diesel and nuke) and WW1/WW2 era boats.. it's completely illogical to class a diesel boat of WW2 with a modern nuke IMHO...

If you take in context with what was around it at the time, it works out.

**RustyBattleship** · 18 May 07,, 18:55

Well, there's Jules Verne's NAUTILUS as portrayed in the Disney movie. Those in the TV shows were horrible.

The SEAVIEW with Richard Basehart as the Admiral and David Hedison as the Captain (who never issued an order because the Admiral ran things).

Oh. You mean REAL submarines.

Cousteau's (actually Lockheed's & the Navy's) Diving Saucer.
Alvin
Aluminaut
DSRV
Trieste II (though a Bathyscaphe rather than a submarine - owned by
the Navy)
The Russian built "Fat Boy" deep research subs that explored Bismarck.
CURV (Controlled Underwater Recovery Vehicle - no crew but picked up an H- bomb off of Spain.

That's all I can think of for the moment. There's only 3 of them I didn't actually work on and a 4th I was invited to go on a dive with but my work schedule interfered.

**omon** · 18 May 07,, 19:10

my school military class teacher was a submariner, he told us that tyfoon is the only sub (russian) that has small pool, sauna, for the crew, and unlike all other subs he served on tyfoon is the only one with cellings high enough for someone with my hight(6'4") to walk and not hit anything.
that was 18years ago, now most tyfoons are half dead, their nuclear reactors work as a small powerplant, and supply some distant costal citys with electricity, as a military equipment most are useless, what a waste, imo.

**Master Chief** · 18 May 07,, 20:51

I agree with breaking it up into two groups nuke boats and non nuke boats.

**gunnut** · 18 May 07,, 22:10

The Surcouf of France.

Surcouf (N N 3) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Novel concept in the 1920s, truly one of a kind sub.

**aktarian** · 18 May 07,, 22:32

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

I was amazed that Germany built over 700 of the Type 7. They claimed that they were the most built subs in any class. But also incurred the most losses during WWII. They were certainly on of the most agile u boats ever created.

But outclassed by Wallied ASuW forces since about mid-1943. They were used even so because Germans had nothing better operational.

**ArmchairGeneral** · 20 May 07,, 04:01

Originally Posted by Tarek Morgen

the second German one has to the new 212 types submarines, Fuel-cell, can stay submerged for almost a month (without being a nuclear sub), and more silent than pretty much everything else, and completly constructed out of non magnetic material increasing stealth and avoiding danger from naval mines.

The next group of 212er might even get a retractable 30mm cannon.

Actually, I would guess that the second German boat is probably the Type XXI of WWII. A truly formidable sub, and one of the most revolutionary and influential sub designs in history.

Here's one in US service, post-war. Note the streamlined shape. It also had huge battery capacity, and powerful motors, allowing a high underwater speed.

**Wraith601** · 20 May 07,, 05:06

No Los Angeles class?

**ArmchairGeneral** · 20 May 07,, 14:58

Originally Posted by Wraith601

No Los Angeles class?

The Los Angeles class are fine subs, they were probably the best attack subs in the world for a while, but hardly a milestone in sub history. Seawolf was serious leap in capability, and definitely had the "fear factor," but I'm not even sure it should have been included. I'm kinda surprised that the Albacore didn't make it. That was certainly a revolutionary design. Probably didn't want too many American boats, though.

**BenRoethig** · 20 May 07,, 19:16

Albacore was a test boat only she didn't have torpedo tubes and could not be used operationally. Her operational counterparts, the barbel class were pretty good boats and served until 89-90.