How many of you are aware that Russia has developed a SUPERSONIC torpedo quite a few years back? What does it mean? Of course due to high speed it is basically impossible to evade giving the target just a few seconds of reaction time. BUt wait, given that the torpedo travels under water faster than the speed of sound it will be impossible to detect its launch in the first place until your ship or sub is shaken by an explosion and starts to sink.
It's not supersonic, though it is very fast.
It is also unguided with extremely short range(about 7,000 yards).
The Russians are no threat to the US, hence the US has not been in any hurry to duplicate the weapon.
PS.....supersonic underwater is about 10x faster than it is in the air.
If you don't believe me ask a sonar operator.
The speed of sound in water is actually about 4.5 times that in air to be exact.Originally Posted by M21Sniper
If 7500 yards is "extreamly short" then show me a tropedo with a normal range, please?
I stand corrected about the supersonic speed but still traveling pretty freaking fast compared to a submarine or a carrier that would take forever to manuever.
And another update, the guidance system has allready been developed and tested so at this point it IS the best and most lethal torpedo out there.
Oh, and by the way the US is trying to catch with its own High-Speed Undersea Weaponry program.
There are torpedos that have 50km+ range.
The short range Mk. 46 Torpedo (our smallest one in service) has a range of 12,000 yards.
The US has no need to "catch up", we already have designed and tested them. We just don't want to buy any!
Shkval without a nuke is an incredible pointless weapon. Not only can it not hit a sub, but it does less damage to a ship then a regular torpedo.
The Russian Navy is no threat to the USN.
Last edited by Praxus; 12 May 04, at 00:25.
MK-46 MOD 5
Primary function Air and ship-launched lightweight torpedo
Contractor Alliant Techsystems
Power plant Two-speed, reciprocating external combustion; Mono-propellant (Otto fuel II) fueled
Length 102.36 in 2.6 m
Weight 517.65 lb 234.8 kg
Diameter 12.75 in 32.4 cm
Range 8,000 yards 7,315 m
They are used in anti-submarine missiles and droped from the helicopters.
US Submarines use the MK-48 Torpedo with a range in excess of 40 kilometers.
The Mk46 is a dual speed torpedo. The range you have quoted above is for it's high speed setting. At low speed it has about 50% more range.
A Mk48 ADCAP has a range of about 30 nautical miles using dual speed cruise.
The Russians are no threat. You know it, i know it, let it go.
Someone really has self-confidence issues. I have not stated that US should be in constant fear of Russia, but if you decide to go there, ok.
Rusisa is not a threat, thats why over half of USN spends most of its time trying to track Russian boomers.
Russia is not a threat, thats why DoD spends billions of dollars on Naval programs that have nothing to do with Middle East, right, they must be really pouring all that money into defence against 3-rd world nations equipped with 1950's diesel subs.
Of course underwater and surface launched Granit missiles that would snap a carrier in half are not a threat either.
The only real reason Russia is not a threat is because it does not want to attack the US. But if you want to keep going along the same lines as before then US is not a threat to Russia as well even with all the F-22s, B-2s, and JSFs and all the other gudgets that makes you feel like you have a bigger pipi. In that case everything that you like to brag about so much is useless for any nation that has enough balls and a big enough nuclear armament.
7,000 yards for "Shkval" is not a maximum range it's a "maximum effective range" - since "Shkval" doesn't have homing devices of any kind, only autopilot.
So we can say that it's a "straight going torpedo".
Boomers are irrelivent, if Russia goes that way the world as we know it is effectively over. Russian and American ICBM's alone would kill over 70% of the World's population. Not to even mention Submarine Launched Balistic Missiles and Strategic Bombers that are unloading nukes.
The Russian Navy is no threat to the US Navy, this is a fact. Not only is Russian Navy outnumbered in suface combatants, US technology is by far supperior, and the people on the ships are better trained.
If Russia wants to engage with the Pacific Fleet, they will quickly find themselves on the bottom of the Ocean.
Together with a big piece of that Pacific Fleet, imho
One word...
WHY?
Last edited by Praxus; 12 May 04, at 20:39.
No. Because my knowledge says so.
Don't know how to prove it to you... Ever played Harpoon?
So in other words you have no basis for your statement, you just have a feeling that Russia could do this.
That's almost as rediculus as saying "God said so".
If someone on a TV says that tomorrow will be rainy, you will take your umbrella or not?
It's not that someone "just says so". It's just they know better.
You choose to believe them or not, it's all will be over when you get wet.
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