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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    That's odd. You seemed to know more about what rights I have lost under Bush than I do.



    Not anymore now Barry and the communists are in charge.



    Can you name some of those agencies?



    That's strange. No one will know about me if I were sent to Gitmo? Then how do we know those "poor souls" are really being "tortured" there? No one will know about it, but we are all talking about it and we all know for sure they are being tortured, but no one will know.

    That's a hell of a "mental jujitsu" you are performing.
    "According to polls conducted by the Program on International Policy (PIP) attitudes, “Large majorities in Germany and Great Britain, and pluralities in Poland and India, believe the United States has committed violations of international law at its prison on Guantánamo Bay in Cuba, including the use of torture in interrogations.” PIP found a marked decrease in the perception of the U.S. as a leader of human rights as a result of the international community's opposition to the Guantánamo prison.A 2006 poll conducted by the BBC World Service together with GlobeScan in 26 countries found that 69% of respondents disapprove of the Guantánamo prison and the U.S. treatment of detainees.
    American actions in Guantánamo, coupled with the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse scandal, are considered major factors in the decline of the U.S.’s image abroad"

    Spc. Sean Baker, a soldier posing as a prisoner during training exercises at the camp, was beaten so severely that he suffered a brain injury and seizures. In June 2004, the New York Times reported that of the nearly 600 detainees not more than two dozen were closely linked to al-Qaeda and that only very limited information could have been received from questionings. The only top terrorist is reportedly Mohamed al-Kahtani from Saudi Arabia, who is believed to have planned to participate in the September 11 attacks in 2001

    After you watch this "The Road to Guantanamo" - you will have some "coherent thought", but you still need to open you eyes...
    And I don.t think you want to do this.

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    ^^^so? what is your point? cuz i frankly don,t see one,
    and please explain how this relavant to shkval??? do you have sence of relavance???
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    Sorry, no connection with shkval question, just I put an answer of " Originally Posted by gunnut :
    That's odd. You seemed to know more about what rights I have lost under Bush than I do." ---------- that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by assistec24 View Post
    Sorry, no connection with shkval question, just I put an answer of " Originally Posted by gunnut :
    That's odd. You seemed to know more about what rights I have lost under Bush than I do." ---------- that.
    he is right, he lives here, so do i, you otoh have no clue how things are in real world, and your info from Program on International Policy, lol. taken from opinions of random strangers, double lol.
    we live here, you don,t you get info from baised sources that don,t know things firsthand, poll based on opinions, so do you wanna go on with this b.s. of yours?????
    what are you 12?
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    oh, come on guys, just let those european enjoy their 'human right for everyone' while their countries are full of islamic hardcore, pirates, criminals, and someday against the sharia is against the 'human right'. Mayb when that day comes, they will learn that there are something you cannot just give to everyone, those who dont value it at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by omon View Post
    he is right, he lives here, so do i, you otoh have no clue how things are in real world, and your info from Program on International Policy, lol. taken from opinions of random strangers, double lol.
    we live here, you don,t you get info from baised sources that don,t know things firsthand, poll based on opinions, so do you wanna go on with this b.s. of yours?????
    what are you 12?
    "have no clue how things are in real world"....lol, since your US it.s "the real world"... nice pow... wonder why more and more people around outside US think arrogance=US?.... this its the way to make enemies not friends.

    And this : "let those european enjoy their 'human right for everyone' while their countries are full of islamic hardcore, pirates, criminals"(drhuy)...; nice opinion... no comments.
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    I thought this thread was about a useless supersonic torpedo....
    Hit Hard, Hit Fast, Hit Often...

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    What does "supersonic" mean? Sound travels a lot faster in water than in air. Are we to assume this weapon has a speed of greater than sound of speed in water? That would be cool. )
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    Are we back on torpedoes? Great! I've always thought the long-ranged devices, with excellent tracking and steering algorithms, decoy rejection, all the modern goodies, is the way to go. Fire and forget, and like the tortoise, slow but steady wins the day, with a good hit on the target, followed by crumple or sinking noises.

    But a hypersonic torpedo would be cool. With water at 4.5X air, that would be (gets calculator) approximately 20,250 knots underwater. Sounds reasonable.

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