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    Quote Originally Posted by Boltonian
    But the Sampson radar CAN track the movements of planes in every airport in Western Europe...
    Maybe for the Flat Earth Society.

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    lol at flat earth society...

    Boltonian - do you believe that a type 45 in the English channel can track planes flying into Inverness and Geneva ?

    If you do then go back to your village.

    They want their idiot back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PubFather
    lol at flat earth society...

    Boltonian - do you believe that a type 45 in the English channel can track planes flying into Inverness and Geneva ?

    If you do then go back to your village.

    They want their idiot back...
    However longer waves can be bounced off the ionosphere for an OTOH effect a lot of surveillance radars do this.

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    Yes.

    Those are land based where the space and power requirment can be met to power those large transmitters. Also, as you know, tracking and surveillance are quite different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boltonian
    But the Sampson radar CAN track the movements of planes in every airport in Western Europe, as I've already shown.
    LOL.

    By all means, please, post the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urmomma158
    However longer waves can be bounced off the ionosphere for an OTOH effect a lot of surveillance radars do this.
    Sampson doesnt. End of. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dago
    LOL.

    By all means, please, post the link.
    Don't say that - he will and it will be another newspaper article with no basis in reality...

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    Got this from a noted RN analyst:

    "Hi Rick

    I also have the Sampson radar listed as being mounted 35 metres above the T45 waterline, presumably this measures the centre of the array assembly directly down to a theoretical water level (at deep load?). 19 of the 35 metres is mast, the remainder being hull and superstructure."

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    Going to have to go with the Amercians on this one, I did a little reading and near as I've been able to gather Sampson is a line of site radar. Which makes it physically impossible for it to monitor all the aircraft in western europe.

    Unless of course you guys mounted the ship on a giant balloon a lifted it to about 10k feet.

    The likely limiting factor for the radars range is the height the radar is mounted at and the curvature of the earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canoe
    Going to have to go with the Amercians on this one, I did a little reading and near as I've been able to gather Sampson is a line of site radar. Which makes it physically impossible for it to monitor all the aircraft in western europe.

    Unless of course you guys mounted the ship on a giant balloon a lifted it to about 10k feet.

    The likely limiting factor for the radars range is the height the radar is mounted at and the curvature of the earth.
    Who told you? that was meant to be top secret....

    That claim was made in the British press.. never on anything more reliable... and the main stream Brit press knows dick about military matters...

    A silly claim repeated by a few idiots... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simullacrum
    LOl now thats splitting hairs lol....its still BAE systems...it is still a foreign company which owns and direct other American militry companies..!! lol..!!!
    You're trying to be funny, but you don't understand the way things work. BAe Systems buys out other companies, but that doesn't mean they own the product. They are still under US export rules, and have to get approval for foreign sales, even to the UK. What BAe gets, is their share of the profits. They don't get to determine who gets access to technologies developed in the US.

    And as far as this Samson Radar, the MMIC's are the enabling technology for AESA, and they are manufactured right here in the US by Raytheon in their MA foundry. Raytheon is the number one supplier of semiconductors and modules to BAe Systems, and is the sub for the Navigation system on the ship.

    BAe and Raytheon are very close, and BAe is also involved in the GAN MMIC development at Raytheon.

    You may think these companies are in some kind of direct competition, but they aren't. They are cooperative ventures, and each one tries to do what they are best at.
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    The only naval asset I can think of that is capable of "detecting targets" out in East Europe would be the USNS Observation Island, equiped with the first NAVAL phassed array application AN/SPQ-11. Desgined to detect Russian ballistic launches in eastern Russia.

    Last edited by Dago; 05 May 06, at 21:38.

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    Nice post Dago you sure do know a lot about radar tech!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dago
    The only naval asset I can think of that is capable of "detecting targets" out in East Europe would be the USNS Observation Island, equiped with the first NAVAL phassed array application AN/SPQ-11. Desgined to detect Russian ballistic launches in eastern Russia.
    Dago, to answer your question, that would be a passive array since the transmitters are not integrated at the element level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by urmomma158
    Nice post Dago you sure do know a lot about radar tech!
    God but you are a moron

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