Worlds Most Advance War Ship

**Simullacrum** · 02 Feb 06,, 09:42

here is a link to the launch of the TYPE 45

You will be able to see what the ship looks like but without the SAMPSON RADAR [wouldnt be able to get out of hanger if it were on lol] and PAMMS system..!!

http://clients.mediaondemand.net/speakeasy/type45.wvx

**dave angel** · 02 Feb 06,, 09:44

Originally Posted by gunnut

You don't happen to have pictures, do you?

of the toaster? no i'm afraid that not only was it dark, but i was killing myself laughing as my 'genius' friend sailed of into the corridor with very spikey hair.

i did try to take piccies of Daring with my phone, but all i got was a grey warship against a grey shipyard against a grey sky, but it could just be a picture of the inside of my pocket...

edited to note: the reason it takes so long for Daring slide down the slidey thing (?) is that it was cheffing cold in glasgow and the tallow was being a bit sticky and not very slidey.

Dave Angel, WAB News, Glasgow, Scotlandshire, England.

**gunnut** · 02 Feb 06,, 09:53

Originally Posted by Simullacrum

here is a link to the launch of the TYPE 45

You will be able to see what the ship looks like but without the SAMPSON RADAR [wouldnt be able to get out of hanger if it were on lol] and PAMMS system..!!

http://clients.mediaondemand.net/speakeasy/type45.wvx

Very nice. Now I can't wait to see the new CVs.

Originally Posted by dave angel

edited to note: the reason it takes so long for Daring slide down the slidey thing (?) is that it was cheffing cold in glasgow and the tallow was being a bit sticky and not very slidey.

Ah...I was wondering about that.

**Dreadnought** · 02 Feb 06,, 13:19

Originally Posted by dave angel

i went to see HMS Daring launch this morning, odd looking ship, but with nice lines that aren't really done justice in the photos and artist impressions.

incidentally i went to university with one of the lads designing the Sampson radar, clever bloke, but he did manage to fuse a student hall of residence while attempting to fix a toaster...

Good video of her launch.

**JBodnar39** · 02 Feb 06,, 17:02

Every maker of every weapons systems says that their's is the best, and national pride always steps into the debate also.

As an American I'd like to say - way to go England, you should be very proud. Because when Daring is operational the Royal navy will have THE best air-defense ship in the world - period

**Parihaka** · 02 Feb 06,, 20:27

Nice video, always good to see a ship being launched but my audio isn't working, who's the blond bint with the pink suit?

**gunnut** · 02 Feb 06,, 21:35

Originally Posted by parihaka

Nice video, always good to see a ship being launched but my audio isn't working, who's the blond bint with the pink suit?

Her Royal Highness, the Countess of Wessex.

What the means I have absolutely no idea. Sounds like an impressive title. I don't have a title. Usually people just say "the crazy guy" or "the gun guy..."

**BenRoethig** · 02 Feb 06,, 22:12

Originally Posted by gunnut

That's one very interesting thing I noticed about the RN. They like their own missiles. Sea Slug, Sea Cat, Sea Dart, and Sea Wolf are all used on British warships (and their export models of course) but by no one else in the world. I suppose they want to be independent, but the cost must be very high to deploy those systems.

From what I understand, the Daring class will carry 48 Aster 30 missiles. Why is it that a 7000t ship carries only 48 missiles? American ships carry far more. Modified Spruances have 61 launch cells. Burke IIAs have 112 cells. Ticos have 128 cells. Is it the nature of their mission? But even if Darings are tasked with air defense only, wouldn't it be better to have more missiles? Cost and weight permitting of course.

96 on the Burkes. 32 fore, 64 aft. As for the loadout on the T45s, it's going to be more like 32 Aster 30 and 16 aster 15. It's a definate improvement over the obsolete pieces of junk that were the Type42s.

**gunnut** · 02 Feb 06,, 22:21

Originally Posted by BenRoethig

96 on the Burkes. 32 fore, 64 aft. As for the loadout on the T45s, it's going to be more like 32 Aster 30 and 16 aster 15. It's a definate improvement over the obsolete pieces of junk that were the Type42s.

Hmmm...I thought I saw somewhere that Burke IIAs have 112 cells each. I know the original Burkes have 96 cells.

Yeah, it's time to retire the Type 42s and their obsolete Sea Darts. Why was there no follow-up improvement to the Sea Dart like the SM-2 from the SM-1? Or was that effort redirected to the Aster series?

**Bill** · 03 Feb 06,, 01:51

Originally Posted by gunnut

Hmmm...I thought I saw somewhere that Burke IIAs have 112 cells each. I know the original Burkes have 96 cells.

The original burkes came out of the shipyards with 90 VLS cells. The VLS reloaded cranes were removed on the flight II ships(and subsequently all flight Is as well), and all burkes now mount 96 Mk41 VLS tubes.

VLS Ticos have 128 VLS cells each.

**gunnut** · 03 Feb 06,, 04:39

I stand corrected. I found a picture of a Burke IIa ship and it showed 32 cells fore and 64 cells aft. Of course that's assuming the reloading cranes have been removed and replaced by launch cells.

I have a question. What is that big bump just in front of and below the bridge? There used to be a Phalanx sitting there, but no more.

**canoe** · 03 Feb 06,, 05:13

My only beef with the ship is the lack of Phalanx. While it clearly looks to have the best missile based defence system out there right now the Phalanx is nice in that it covers incoming targets that would be otherwise to close to effectively engage with missiles. Hence the whole 'last chance defence' idea. Maybe it'd be a consideration for an upgrade addon later.

Otherwise sounds like a great ship though.

**Dreadnought** · 03 Feb 06,, 13:33

Originally Posted by parihaka

Nice video, always good to see a ship being launched but my audio isn't working, who's the blond bint with the pink suit?

A future tour guide

**Sea Toby** · 04 Feb 06,, 02:16

The Countess of Wessex is Prince Edward's, the Earl of Wessex's wife.

**british beef** · 03 Mar 06,, 16:55

Originally Posted by Defcon 6

I'm not impressed by this ship. What a lame excuse for a destroyer. The only thing innovative is the fact that it's got some sort of modular design goin on.

Have u even read about this ship forget the looks its wat it can do that makes it so spiecal. its the most advanced ship in the world.