Most needed in US NAVY

Praxus · 10-25-2003, 11:00 AM

I pick Attack Subs and second I would pick BBG because we need NSFS asset for support Marine Operations.

Stinger · 10-28-2003, 15:30 PM

Battleships.... piss on the bubbleheads :D

bigross86 · 10-28-2003, 16:51 PM

I went for BB's. I'd vote CVN's if they had F-14Ds, but they won't

**Ironduke** · 10-28-2003, 17:22 PM

One more Nimitz to replace the Kitty Hawk, and two more carriers, more advanced than the Nimitz class, to replace the JFK and Enterprise.

Sparky · 10-28-2003, 20:38 PM

I voted for the Virginia class attack sub. Not having enough forces us to risk using subs not suited for the littoral role and puts them at risk. Littoral engagements will likely predominate for the next few years. We could use the CVNs but they are in the works and we have time. We need the aircraft situation sorted out first to get full effect of the carriers. The naval JSF isn't a total solution. Many nations thinking of opposing us keep track of our carriers and choose to act when we are elswhere. The silent invisible subs add an additional uncertainty to the mix.

Anon · 10-28-2003, 23:38 PM

Iowa.

Hawg166 · 11-08-2003, 23:15 PM

I would vote for cvn's also but the aircraft situation kinda sucks. I have to look forward to the new litoral warfare scenarios the Navy is leaning towards. Doing this I would choose the BB's. I would like to see the South Dakotas recommisioned (pipedream I know) because the Massachusetts BB-59 is in full working order as far as the steam plants are concerned. It is in great shape also. Unfortunately it has the 16" 45 calibers, MKVI guns.

Anon · 11-09-2003, 01:12 AM

The Massachusetts 16"/45's still pack more NGFS wallop than the entire USN surface fleet combined, so while they're not the 50caliber rifles, they aint no slouches either.

Praxus · 11-09-2003, 10:49 AM

We only have something like 57 Submarines, it is hard to cover most of the oceans with Subs when you only got 57 of them.

bigross86 · 11-09-2003, 11:03 AM

Even harder with only 12 CVN's

Praxus · 11-09-2003, 11:23 AM

You don't need to cover the planet with CVN's

Anon · 11-09-2003, 20:34 PM

We need the Battleships.

If i can't have those, i want the 90TACAIR carrier air wing back.

We may have 12 fleet carriers by counting hulls, but they are embarking the same total of aircraft as six 90TACAIR CV's used to.

The 90TACAIR wing is what the Nimitz was designed to employ.

Praxus · 11-09-2003, 20:49 PM

15 Gun Broadside(9, 16 inch guns and 6, 5 inch guns).

Anon · 11-10-2003, 01:57 AM

Awesome.

That's about 26,000lbs of HE and steel in a single salvo.

Sweet.

Praxus · 11-10-2003, 16:10 PM

Yup, it's every single gun that can fire in that dirrection.

View Poll Results: What does the US NAVY need most?
Iowa Class Battleships	39	25.16%
Virginia Class Nuclear Attack Submarines	33	21.29%
Amphibious Assault Ships	16	10.32%
Aerligh Burk Class Destroyers	10	6.45%
Nimitz Class Carriers	29	18.71%
Littoral Combat Ships	28	18.06%
Voters: 155. You may not vote on this poll

10-25-2003, 11:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
Praxus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-26-03 Posts: 3,237	Most needed in US NAVY I pick Attack Subs and second I would pick BBG because we need NSFS asset for support Marine Operations.

10-28-2003, 15:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
Stinger Contributor Join Date: 08-08-03 Posts: 714	Battleships.... piss on the bubbleheads :D __________________ Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.

10-28-2003, 16:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
bigross86 401 Ikvot Habarzel *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-07-03 Location: Ra'anana, Israel Posts: 3,148	I went for BB's. I'd vote CVN's if they had F-14Ds, but they won't __________________ You're a naughty girl, go to my room!

10-28-2003, 17:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ironduke Burgomaster Join Date: 08-02-03 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 6,663 Country:	One more Nimitz to replace the Kitty Hawk, and two more carriers, more advanced than the Nimitz class, to replace the JFK and Enterprise. __________________ The Buck Stops Here

10-28-2003, 20:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sparky Regular Join Date: 09-12-03 Location: Illinois USA Posts: 50	I voted for the Virginia class attack sub. Not having enough forces us to risk using subs not suited for the littoral role and puts them at risk. Littoral engagements will likely predominate for the next few years. We could use the CVNs but they are in the works and we have time. We need the aircraft situation sorted out first to get full effect of the carriers. The naval JSF isn't a total solution. Many nations thinking of opposing us keep track of our carriers and choose to act when we are elswhere. The silent invisible subs add an additional uncertainty to the mix.

10-28-2003, 23:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 1	Iowa.

11-08-2003, 23:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
Hawg166 Regular Join Date: 09-10-03 Location: Western Mass.....with the injuns Posts: 112	I would vote for cvn's also but the aircraft situation kinda sucks. I have to look forward to the new litoral warfare scenarios the Navy is leaning towards. Doing this I would choose the BB's. I would like to see the South Dakotas recommisioned (pipedream I know) because the Massachusetts BB-59 is in full working order as far as the steam plants are concerned. It is in great shape also. Unfortunately it has the 16" 45 calibers, MKVI guns. __________________ "Now we shall have ourselves a pell mell battle!" ......The Immortal Memory, Admiral Nelson

11-09-2003, 01:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 1	The Massachusetts 16"/45's still pack more NGFS wallop than the entire USN surface fleet combined, so while they're not the 50caliber rifles, they aint no slouches either.

11-09-2003, 10:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
Praxus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-26-03 Posts: 3,237	We only have something like 57 Submarines, it is hard to cover most of the oceans with Subs when you only got 57 of them.

11-09-2003, 11:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
bigross86 401 Ikvot Habarzel *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-07-03 Location: Ra'anana, Israel Posts: 3,148	Even harder with only 12 CVN's

11-09-2003, 11:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
Praxus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-26-03 Posts: 3,237	You don't need to cover the planet with CVN's

11-09-2003, 20:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 1	We need the Battleships. If i can't have those, i want the 90TACAIR carrier air wing back. We may have 12 fleet carriers by counting hulls, but they are embarking the same total of aircraft as six 90TACAIR CV's used to. The 90TACAIR wing is what the Nimitz was designed to employ.

11-09-2003, 20:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
Praxus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-26-03 Posts: 3,237	15 Gun Broadside(9, 16 inch guns and 6, 5 inch guns).

11-10-2003, 01:57 AM	#14 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 1	Awesome. That's about 26,000lbs of HE and steel in a single salvo. Sweet.

11-10-2003, 16:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
Praxus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-26-03 Posts: 3,237	Yup, it's every single gun that can fire in that dirrection.

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