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bigross86 · 11-10-2003, 16:26 PM

That's BB-61 Iowa, right?

Praxus · 11-10-2003, 16:51 PM

Its that class yah, I don't know if it is that ship.

bigross86 · 11-10-2003, 17:08 PM

Yeah, it's Iowa. The website has pics of BB-61, 62, 63 and 64, and the addy for this says BB-61.

**Ironduke** · 11-18-2003, 18:57 PM

Perhaps we could use battleships if they were designed to carry cruise missiles. Are those battleships with the big guns really that useful anymore?

Praxus · 11-18-2003, 19:02 PM

I'd say a floating fortress with GPS guided 11" shells that can go 200 miles is pretty effective. With new barrel linings we could fire a couple thousand rounds a day. Delivering far more fire power for a far cheaper price then even B-52 fleet.

WE HAVE ENOUGH SHIPS THAT CAN CARRY CRUISE MISSILES!

In fact we have 5 times more holes to put them then they have missiles.

They can already carry 32 by the way which is plenty.

bigross86 · 01-07-2004, 09:23 AM

Yeah, but Iowa's and the rounds they fire are limited to a fixed trajectory. Cruise missiles can be air-launched, and they can climb, dive and turn.

Praxus · 01-07-2004, 16:18 PM

Why would it need to dive and turn?

It would have some controlability because of GPS guidence.

Cruise Missiles also cost over 5 times as much.

bigross86 · 01-07-2004, 16:24 PM

Cruise missiles have massive range, a 1000 lb warhead, and if the radar station is on a mountain, the BB-61 might not be able to hit it. I'm only playing devil's advocate here

Praxus · 01-07-2004, 17:08 PM

Tell me, how many military instalations are on top of mountains?

**Ironduke** · 01-07-2004, 18:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Praxus
Tell me, how many military instalations are on top of mountains?

I doubt there are many on top of mountains, but many are situated on high ground.

bigross86 · 01-07-2004, 18:26 PM

It's the same everywhere. If you control high-ground, you control more area

Praxus · 01-07-2004, 18:47 PM

All it does is make it an easier target.

2DREZQ · 01-14-2004, 13:34 PM

Something like 75% of the infrastructure of the 3rd world is within range of the Iowa's guns without any upgrades at all...

Anvilanthony · 02-20-2004, 02:53 AM

LoL but battleships are obsolute in naval warfare these days ..

bigross86 · 02-20-2004, 03:32 AM

Wrong thing to say dude...

View Poll Results: What does the US NAVY need most?
Iowa Class Battleships	39	25.16%
Virginia Class Nuclear Attack Submarines	33	21.29%
Amphibious Assault Ships	16	10.32%
Aerligh Burk Class Destroyers	10	6.45%
Nimitz Class Carriers	29	18.71%
Littoral Combat Ships	28	18.06%
Voters: 155. You may not vote on this poll

11-10-2003, 16:26 PM	#16 (permalink)
bigross86 401 Ikvot Habarzel *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-07-03 Location: Ra'anana, Israel Posts: 3,148	That's BB-61 Iowa, right? __________________ You're a naughty girl, go to my room!

11-18-2003, 18:57 PM	#19 (permalink)
Ironduke Burgomaster Join Date: 08-02-03 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 6,662 Country:	Perhaps we could use battleships if they were designed to carry cruise missiles. Are those battleships with the big guns really that useful anymore? __________________ The Buck Stops Here

01-14-2004, 13:34 PM	#28 (permalink)
2DREZQ Contributor Join Date: 08-04-03 Posts: 702	Something like 75% of the infrastructure of the 3rd world is within range of the Iowa's guns without any upgrades at all... __________________ USS North Dakota

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11-10-2003, 16:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
Praxus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-26-03 Posts: 3,237	Its that class yah, I don't know if it is that ship.

11-10-2003, 17:08 PM	#18 (permalink)
bigross86 401 Ikvot Habarzel *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-07-03 Location: Ra'anana, Israel Posts: 3,148	Yeah, it's Iowa. The website has pics of BB-61, 62, 63 and 64, and the addy for this says BB-61.

11-18-2003, 19:02 PM	#20 (permalink)
Praxus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-26-03 Posts: 3,237	I'd say a floating fortress with GPS guided 11" shells that can go 200 miles is pretty effective. With new barrel linings we could fire a couple thousand rounds a day. Delivering far more fire power for a far cheaper price then even B-52 fleet. WE HAVE ENOUGH SHIPS THAT CAN CARRY CRUISE MISSILES! In fact we have 5 times more holes to put them then they have missiles. They can already carry 32 by the way which is plenty.

01-07-2004, 09:23 AM	#21 (permalink)
bigross86 401 Ikvot Habarzel *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-07-03 Location: Ra'anana, Israel Posts: 3,148	Yeah, but Iowa's and the rounds they fire are limited to a fixed trajectory. Cruise missiles can be air-launched, and they can climb, dive and turn.

01-07-2004, 16:18 PM	#22 (permalink)
Praxus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-26-03 Posts: 3,237	Why would it need to dive and turn? It would have some controlability because of GPS guidence. Cruise Missiles also cost over 5 times as much.

01-07-2004, 16:24 PM	#23 (permalink)
bigross86 401 Ikvot Habarzel *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-07-03 Location: Ra'anana, Israel Posts: 3,148	Cruise missiles have massive range, a 1000 lb warhead, and if the radar station is on a mountain, the BB-61 might not be able to hit it. I'm only playing devil's advocate here

01-07-2004, 17:08 PM	#24 (permalink)
Praxus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-26-03 Posts: 3,237	Tell me, how many military instalations are on top of mountains?

01-07-2004, 18:26 PM	#26 (permalink)
bigross86 401 Ikvot Habarzel *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-07-03 Location: Ra'anana, Israel Posts: 3,148	It's the same everywhere. If you control high-ground, you control more area

01-07-2004, 18:47 PM	#27 (permalink)
Praxus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-26-03 Posts: 3,237	All it does is make it an easier target.

02-20-2004, 02:53 AM	#29 (permalink)
Anvilanthony Banned Join Date: 02-05-04 Location: Western New York Posts: 55	LoL but battleships are obsolute in naval warfare these days ..

02-20-2004, 03:32 AM	#30 (permalink)
bigross86 401 Ikvot Habarzel *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-07-03 Location: Ra'anana, Israel Posts: 3,148	Wrong thing to say dude...

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