Sameer

The air version of Brahmos is lighter, this is btw mentioned in the article.

Only in theory can the Barak 2, Aster 30 etc intercept a Mach 2+ missile, this is mentioned in their brochure but they admit that it has never been tested against a supersonic missile.

Remember the big cry about the CHinese having the Sunburn missile in the late nineties and how no US carrier battlegroup could intercept it

You cant say the missile cannot be intercepted, but its an extremely dangerous missile and extremely advanced in terms of RAM propulsion, stealth features etc.

People have to understand that the Russians could not make a missile with a range greater than 300kms due to MTCR with India, the Brahmos was thus created so India could get the knowhow and now India by itself will increae the range of the missile in the Brahmos 2 phase.

indianguy4u

Hey sameer can DRDO increase the range to somewhere 1500-2000 km. That could be killer range. This version (brahmos) equiped subs would be a hot combo .

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Sameer

No

The Brahmos is being fitted on all 5year old ships and all new ships that come out of the docks. 1000 Brahmoses will be produced in the next 8-10 years from thearticle and readings from AFM.

The Scorpenes that the IN is getting cannot carry the Brahmos and will have the new Exocet series.

The Amur will be capable of it.

I doubt that the Kilos can, the carry the Klub.

The MiG-29K carrying the Brahmos?

The Russians say so, I have my doubts for the same reasons you mention, let us wait and see.

Each Brahmos costs around 3 million dollars, India will not seek to intergrate it with every single plane and ship, it does not need to, it is intergrating it with the army and air force and navy, enough.

Rememebr Pakistan for eg is right next door, you dont need a ship to launch the Brahmos.

indianguy4u

JBodnar39,
In our geopolitical region its 'THE WEAPON' to have. No one is arguing that its best & other empy boasts.

indianguy4u

If 10 crore is taken as value of each, it translates to 2 million US$.

Sameer

France is developing a new stealth supersonic ASMP-A 500 Km cruise missile , replacing the older ASMP

JBodnar39

Arm a Backfire with 4 or 6 of those - now that would be a potent combination

Sameer

The key reasons and features of the Brahmos are here

Evolution of war weaponary : Brahmos


1. 'Fire and Forget' missile
2. Long range up to 290 km
3. High supersonic speed, Mach 2.8
4. Variable flight trajectories
5. Low reaction time and simple to operate
6. Long range radar seeker with ECCM
7. High lethal due to supersonic speed and penetrating warhead
8. Universal for sea, sub-sea, shore based carrier and silo
9. Multi target capability


Tyuang the lo lo, i can confirm is 1/2*maximum range (289km) so higher than 120kms

Sameer

Interview of Mr. A.S. Pillai - CEO BrahMos


Quote:

Russian president Putin visited the BrahMos design centre during his visit to India. Will it help the missile programme in any way?

Both the governments have appreciated the progress the joint venture has made in a short time and acknowledged it as a role model for any future joint ventures in strategic partnership. President Putin’s visit has given the go-ahead for the air-launched version of the missile to be developed and integrated with Su-30MKI. His visit to the BrahMos Weapon Design Centre and his meeting with the CEOs of the consortium of industries of BrahMos gave a major impetus to this programme, including the export component.


President Kalam gave some marketing tips to Team BrahMos. What’s the missile’s marketing mantra?

President Kalam said the missile should be marketed aggressively and exported in a year to take advantage of the already established product leadership. He also said competition will come within the next four to five years and hence production and marketing goals have to be fulfilled immediately. We are fully geared to fulfil his wish, as the joint venture has already established production centres, weapon complex design centre, international marketing group, training and documentation centre and participated in many international exhibitions to sensitise the market. BrahMos Aerospace is a total solutions company and our marketing mantra for BrahMos is: Many missions, one missile.

How is BrahMos different from other missiles?

In recent times, subsonic cruise missiles have been the most dominant weapon system in tactical warfare. The ability of BrahMos to fly at three times the speed of sound in a variety of trajectories, from multiple platforms against multiple targets with high precision, and to remain undetectable due to low radar cross section, makes it the most potent weapon system ever developed.

The Su-30MKI is said to be an ideal platform of BrahMos. Did you have to modify the missile to achieve this?

The present missile with certain modifications has been conceptualised to be an ideal weapon for Su-30MKI. The modifications ensure lesser weight of the missile for same performance, utilising the initial velocity of the aircraft. Design and development has just commenced. Interface details with the platform are being finalised involving partner institutions and the user.

Sameer

From the article and AFM

I gathered

During the 8th test, the helicopter detected the target but the target was made to move away from the area and the missile was fired in the latter's "general direction". The Brahmos successfully searched for it, picked it up and punched a neat hole into it, intentionally above the waterline for study.

The overland Brahmos is mentioned with some "special image processing software" capability in the article. I guess he means TCM, some thing more than a simple radar altimeter. It may not have the Tomahawk's range but the land-based Brahmos is a decisive weapon. Just imagine a "Brahmos storm" !!

Sameer

Here is the speculation

HI-LO RANGE= 290KMS
LOLO= 120KMS+

HI HI= ?


India is not a signatory of MTCR, Russia was, everone knows that India needed help so the Russians helped India but had to officially limit the range to 300kms, there is no doubt in any defence circle that Russia and India know how to make a longer range missile than that and the argument is that India needed to know how to propel the missile, russia has experience, India and Russia collaborated and India paid the Ruskies lots of dough and now India has a cruise missile and they are planning to increase the range to 700-800kms, so says Tom from ACIG.

Samudra

The range obviously has been understated.

Yes , the Brahmos picked up a specific building like structure from a bunch of buildings and flattened it in one of the IA tests.Heard so on BR.I'm not a genuis, you know.

The skeptics have now been answered.By the CEO of Brahmos himself.
There is a air launched Brahmos in the works.Yay.

Terror is thy name , death is in thy breath....

Anon

"
Only in theory can the Barak 2, Aster 30 etc intercept a Mach 2+ missile, this is mentioned in their brochure but they admit that it has never been tested against a supersonic missile."

Not in theory, but in mathematics.

I'd be stunned if Aster15/30 had any problems with Brahmos.

Aster is the state of the art in shipboard SAM design, and TREMENDOUSLY agile, with mindnumbing acceleration.

Anon

"Remember the big cry about the CHinese having the Sunburn missile in the late nineties and how no US carrier battlegroup could intercept it"

Yeah, it was a bunch of BS too.

Sameer

The Aster 15 cannot intercept a 2+ mach system, the Aster 30 can in theory, it has never been tested. Also the Brahmos does not fly in a straight line, it has low RCS and performes manouvers before hitting the target, you are forgetting that Russia worked with India in this project.

And the Sunburn had no anti missiles that could intercept it mate, I dont know where you got the BS notion from. the sea sparrow has been found lacking in intercepting mach 1.5+ missiles with a 15% success rate. (computer simulation)
The Brahmos is the latest in Russian knowhow.