latinoppimp

How would the united states attack venezuela? attacking from land wouldnt be as easy as iraq venezuela has very rugged terrain and lots of mountains. To me the best way is a sea invasion but is there anyway that the venezuelan military could try and counter this.


If anyone could shed some light on the subject it would be apreciated.

latinoppimp

Do any of you think that venezuela could buy its way into the nuclear club via its petrolium.

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highsea

Why attack? The country will collapse under it's own weight without outside help. It will become another Cuba, dirt poor and helpless, surviving off the charity of others. Mismanagement, corruption, and lack of investment in infrastructure will destroy it's economy, and the government will resort to ruling the people with an iron fist.

It will be a model of socialism.

When the government falls to revolution or invasion from her neighbors, the US will go in and secure the oil fields.

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latinoppimp

[quote=highsea]Why attack? The country will collapse under it's own weight without outside help. It will become another Cuba, dirt poor and helpless, surviving off the charity of others. Mismanagement, corruption, and lack of investment in infrastructure will destroy it's economy, and the government will resort to ruling the people with an iron fist.

It will be a model of socialism.

When the government falls to revolution or invasion from her neighbors, the US will go in and secure the oil fields. [/QUOTE

I doubt that venezuela will become another cuba,and wat neighbors could invade i doubt columbia could do that.

indianguy4u

US is activiely helping columbia in doing this.

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Garry

Luckilly US Government do respect the choise of Venezuela people. Whoever they got elected, and whatever way of development they choose, has nothing to do with your oppionions in US or my oppinion in Russia.

in the world where US Government may sollely decide whom to attack and whom not to attack... like it happened with Iraq (which did not threaten or attack US) everybody want to have some sort of nuclear weapon. Unfortunatelly technology development make this more and more feasible even for small states like North Korea....

Anon

As long as the oil flows we wouldn't do anything.

If the oil got shut off we'd be in there in force in a heartbeat.

Probably a massive amphibious invasion coinciding with a massed paratrooper drop.

Garry

OK. Fair reply. It is about oil.

Then stop shouting about - DEMOCRACY, FREEDOM OF CHOISE, RIGHT TO DEFEND HOMELAND.... other bla...bla..bla... Admit US fights for oil and gives not s**t about Venezuela or other countries souvereign rights.... or right of their people to redistribute oil abnormal profits from oil companies to social needs

It it were like you see it. Then US would have had no serious difference with former USSR...... who is the new evil impire?

Luckilly your Government does not share your views

Dreadnought

Psst guys if was all about oil then the U.S. wouldnt be in these countries. If the U.S. was "solely" after oil then we wouldnt be leaving our back yard. I.E. Discovery Channel June 6th Alaska's river (Oil) After numerous studies scientists confirm that the untapped oil deposites found under the permafrost could sustain the U.S. economy for atleast 70 years even at todays pace. We could always return to coal as our country has an endless supply. True we do keep a close eye on oil. But we were protecting, respecting and returning soverign nations to their lands long before oil even entered the picture. (Battleships ran on coal in this era.) and oil was just about not heard off in domestic trade at this time.
And as far as Democracy, Rights and all things Soverign go.. The U.S. has spread some of the very best things in life there are to offer to any nation and still are. Are we perfect no. Do we claim to be no. But ofcoarse there are those who dont see it that way. How is it that the world hates us but yet runs to our side when the world needs a policeman. Go figure. I say for now on we close our boarders take care of our own and for the ones that run to us now give them the bill, let them see what it costs to protect others and let them give theyre childrens lives to save others who hate us and our system of government and way of life. Oh and if we didnt respect others soverign rights then Japan along with many of its islands would have belonged to the Russians immediately after WWII read the history I have. Im just sick of people beating up my country and here we give more to others then any other nation on this planet. They are just jealous because we make due with the system we have and they cant. And on top of that we can vote and change it because we are who we are. Sometimes you have to due the unplopular things and suffer the fall out for the benefit of all thats whats makes a great country not *****ers but men who stand up and do it. Maybe if these other "unrespected" nations would do it for themselves we wouldnt have to be there but they wont so we have to. so be it. If they fund terrorism which many do with "OIL" yes "OIL" then maybe we wouldnt be there because sooner or later it will come our way. So I guess were wrong for grabbing the snake by the head instead of the tail but so be it. And if were so evil..hey no one is stopping anyone from leaving the U.S. please be our guest the door is that way...AMEN. I say GOD BLESS THE U.S. AND ITS WAYS!

Garry

Hei Dreadnought! Osama Ben Laden and even Az Zarkavi has been funded by US! As well as Pakistani bomb.... indirectly though you helped them get it. You are right now funding your covered agents in Iran and in Central Asia? Well probably you can not call this terrorism but there are many cases when your inteligence did not care much what means to use when to reach their goals in countries that are not under your western umbrella....

Lets put it this way - world getting smaller and smaller. AND IT NEEDS A POLICEMAN. US have enough power to serve this role. However you must have means to control you policemen from doing stupid things. You must have chance to control him or change him. If you can not make him hear your concerns he turnsto a DICTATOR and you have to go to opposition such uncontrolled power....

This is the problem here. Everybody around feel that you are not legitimate nor elected to serve our policemen. That is because you are serving your own interest first and only then you think of others... especially small guys like Venezuela, Panama (who is just an outrageous example). And this is actually normal cause your leades are elected by domestic people and most of them really had no idea or desire to learn what is going on in Iran, or Birma.... but they care about price of oil they pay at a pump. And your leaders act according to this reality. If they have stated wasting resources paid by you for interests of the rest of the world you would've fired them......

Hence when you start shouting that Venezuela is funding terrorists or elections in Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and Iraq are up to the standards (but not in Ukraine) part of the globe clearly see that your interests guide you judgements..... you don't want to trust such a policemen

I don't know how this will be resolved. Nobody can replace US. No state can really be trustworthy to be legitimate. On the other side US can not isolate itself, it does not even try doing so......

I guess this will not be resolved in next couple of decades.........

Unipidity

ANWAR is about 10billion barrels... nothing. And an interruption to the existing oil supply might not make long term strategic problems, but it would surely cause short term economic and political problems. Hence invasion. Much easier that the alternatives.

Dreadnought

Well Garry its pretty tough controlling your policeman when people want to kill them just becuse the belong to the west. Control you say... read about the attack on the USS Cole.. they watched the explosives layden boat coming up to the boat but they're orders state specificaly do not fire unless fired upon and what happened because they did the right thing many sailors died. Thats our problem we havent taken the gloves off yet. They dont seem to have the same rules of engagement that we do they are purely cowards. Im just tired of us getting the black eye when we give the most in money and in our troops lives and no one can challenge that we dont. We dont want to be the worlds policeman. However the countries that support terrorism dont seem to care that these people kill the innocent at will and that means both our troops and their own people. If these countries cant control their own in a justified court system and or government it will only be a matter of time before they kill in other nations that do have laws and then they will blame us for the actions we take and call it a holy war. These people hide behind radical versions of numerous religions not just muslim. They are funded by drug trades and oil "black" markets.
Everyone wants to point the fingers at us but where are Germany, France etc etc.. these countries host major muslim populations and several bombers have lived there and they know it but yet will do nothing to make the middle east more peaceful unless it is done theyre way but our troops will pay with their lives not theirs. But yet do everything and anything to criticize every move we make. As you said before we do have them in Asia and Iran and Syria all seem to be breeding grounds for these radical types and neither seems to want to stem the flow of them sneaking into other countries and killing people. I say let all these countries that are having the terrorist problems that wouldnt participate from the beginning deal with them. Everybody hates the U.S. and were tired of it they can all kiss our ass we dont need them they need us. Control you say Its hard to control yourself and your troops when "WE" pay the price while "YOU" and other countries that refuse to get involved from the beginning write the rules of control.
Oh and to those that want to burn our flag... do us and the rest of the normal world a favor roll yourself in it before you light it on fire...AMEN

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Franco Lolan

The US never funded OBL. OBL affirms it and I personally know the CIA Operations Chief in Southern Afghanistan during the 80's.

"That is because you are serving your own interests first." What nation doesn't?

"Venezuela is funding terrorists" Yes, it is.

By the way, I am Venezuelan.

Leader

What sovereign rights would those be? The right to viscously murder over a million people like Saddam. That's not a right.

Abnormal Profits? They take oil from the ground and sell it on the world market. Abnormal profits come from cartels like OPEC, of which Venezuela is a member, who artificially, and "abnormally," inflate prices to suit their own purposes.

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