Smaller Carriers

BUFFB52 · 08-05-2003, 23:22 PM

I heard the USN is planning to make 'Smaller Carriers', didn't read to much about it. But it should get USN forces to the hotspot faster and capable of action till the big boys come in'.

Anon · 08-06-2003, 02:00 AM

The new carrier concept, CVX, is a big fleet carrier, but with greatly reduced manning.

**ZFBoxcar** · 08-06-2003, 13:13 PM

is that the thing the British are doing? Because their new carrier design carries 50 aircraft and has a displacement of 60,000 tons with a crew of only 600.

Anon · 08-06-2003, 16:58 PM

No, that's the US Nimitz class replacement.

**Ironduke** · 08-06-2003, 18:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BUFFB52

I heard the USN is planning to make 'Smaller Carriers', didn't read to much about it. But it should get USN forces to the hotspot faster and capable of action till the big boys come in'.

The Marine Corps has a few flattop transport ships that currently have helicopters and Harrier jets........ any small carriers would probably go into service with the USMC.

BUFFB52 · 08-06-2003, 18:24 PM

Currently I think US officials are trying to convince the Aussies to help build a small and faster carrier.

CVX are supposed to be built after the last USS Nimitz class right? I think the USS George H Bush.

Anon · 08-06-2003, 18:53 PM

After the last of the Nimitz's correct.

The USMC has 8 Wasp LHD's(20 harriers max), and 5 Tarawa's(12 Harriers max.)

Not to bad for a bunch of Jarheads.

BUFFB52 · 08-06-2003, 22:33 PM

I hope the Aussies agree...think about it! It's a win, win situation!

You get a small and fast carrier, and the JSF package!

Anon · 08-07-2003, 01:43 AM

They got no money.

Carriers for Oz are a pipedream.

**ZFBoxcar** · 08-07-2003, 13:09 PM

If Thailand can afford 2, I think the Aussies can afford one. Albeit the Thais carriers are only helicopter carriers (I think). The new one the Italians are about to start building costs 1.02 billion dollars.

"The ship could support eight VTOL (vertical take-off and landing) aircraft such as AV-8B Harrier or F-35 joint strike fighter VTOL variant, or 12 helicopters, such as the EH101, AB-212, NH 90 or SH-3D, or a mix of platforms.
"

The Aussies could certainly afford something like this.

**Gio** · 08-07-2003, 18:11 PM

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Originally Posted by M21Sniper

Not to bad for a bunch of Jarheads.

LOL, i had a feeling you'd say something like that.

**Gio** · 08-07-2003, 18:12 PM

I'm sure they could afford them, but think Canada...

Social programs over defense.

BUFFB52 · 08-07-2003, 18:30 PM

The Aussies should be capable of affording an aircraft carrier. They have one of their own carriers in the works in the design phase. But now the US is talking to the Aussies about co-devolping a small and speedy carrier.

Anon · 08-07-2003, 18:56 PM

"Thailand can afford 2, I think the Aussies can afford one."

Thailand has one. They bought it from Spain.

"Albeit the Thais carriers are only helicopter carriers (I think)."

It operates AV-8S Harriers. 9 of them.

"The ship could support eight VTOL (vertical take-off and landing) aircraft such as AV-8B Harrier or F-35 joint strike fighter VTOL variant, or 12 helicopters, such as the EH101, AB-212, NH 90 or SH-3D, or a mix of platforms.
"

"The Aussies could certainly afford something like this."

The Aussies are getting ready to axe thier F-111 fleet, 3 FFGs, and 2 Collins SSK's.

They're not buying any carriers. Their defense budget is all of 1.5% of their GDP. Peanuts.

**Gio** · 08-07-2003, 19:54 PM

The Collins too? I thought they were the pride of the Aussie navy?

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08-06-2003, 02:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	The new carrier concept, CVX, is a big fleet carrier, but with greatly reduced manning.

08-06-2003, 13:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
ZFBoxcar Moderator Join Date: 08-03-03 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 2,129 Country:	is that the thing the British are doing? Because their new carrier design carries 50 aircraft and has a displacement of 60,000 tons with a crew of only 600.

08-06-2003, 16:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	No, that's the US Nimitz class replacement.

08-06-2003, 18:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
BUFFB52 Regular Join Date: 08-02-03 Posts: 116	Currently I think US officials are trying to convince the Aussies to help build a small and faster carrier. CVX are supposed to be built after the last USS Nimitz class right? I think the USS George H Bush.

08-06-2003, 18:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	After the last of the Nimitz's correct. The USMC has 8 Wasp LHD's(20 harriers max), and 5 Tarawa's(12 Harriers max.) Not to bad for a bunch of Jarheads.

08-06-2003, 22:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
BUFFB52 Regular Join Date: 08-02-03 Posts: 116	I hope the Aussies agree...think about it! It's a win, win situation! You get a small and fast carrier, and the JSF package!

08-07-2003, 01:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	They got no money. Carriers for Oz are a pipedream.

08-07-2003, 13:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
ZFBoxcar Moderator Join Date: 08-03-03 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 2,129 Country:	If Thailand can afford 2, I think the Aussies can afford one. Albeit the Thais carriers are only helicopter carriers (I think). The new one the Italians are about to start building costs 1.02 billion dollars. "The ship could support eight VTOL (vertical take-off and landing) aircraft such as AV-8B Harrier or F-35 joint strike fighter VTOL variant, or 12 helicopters, such as the EH101, AB-212, NH 90 or SH-3D, or a mix of platforms. " The Aussies could certainly afford something like this.

08-07-2003, 18:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
Gio Administrator Join Date: 08-02-03 Location: Westwood, Los Angeles, California Posts: 918 Country:	I'm sure they could afford them, but think Canada... Social programs over defense.

08-07-2003, 18:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
BUFFB52 Regular Join Date: 08-02-03 Posts: 116	The Aussies should be capable of affording an aircraft carrier. They have one of their own carriers in the works in the design phase. But now the US is talking to the Aussies about co-devolping a small and speedy carrier.

08-07-2003, 18:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	"Thailand can afford 2, I think the Aussies can afford one." Thailand has one. They bought it from Spain. "Albeit the Thais carriers are only helicopter carriers (I think)." It operates AV-8S Harriers. 9 of them. "The ship could support eight VTOL (vertical take-off and landing) aircraft such as AV-8B Harrier or F-35 joint strike fighter VTOL variant, or 12 helicopters, such as the EH101, AB-212, NH 90 or SH-3D, or a mix of platforms. " "The Aussies could certainly afford something like this." The Aussies are getting ready to axe thier F-111 fleet, 3 FFGs, and 2 Collins SSK's. They're not buying any carriers. Their defense budget is all of 1.5% of their GDP. Peanuts.

08-07-2003, 19:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
Gio Administrator Join Date: 08-02-03 Location: Westwood, Los Angeles, California Posts: 918 Country:	The Collins too? I thought they were the pride of the Aussie navy?

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