Thread: The Best Anti-Ship Missile?

Originally Posted by JA Boomer

None, now that the USN has retired their F-14 Tomcats

If you are going to take them out before they launch you don't use F-14s.

You use Tomahawks from SSNs or JDAMs from B2s.

Originally Posted by kato

Any wave-hugging seaskimmer (<7m altitude) will be picked up on the radar horizon at around 33-35 km. Even at Mach 4 in a straight line, that gives 25 seconds to react. Enough for firing a pair of ESSM even before RAM, decoy and subsequently Phalanx envelopes are entered.

Seawolf, is said to have taken out of 4.5 in round. Now that fast. And the Phalanx system would be tracking the missile at greater range then which it could engage it. ( Not saying it would take it out).

Sounds like against these formidable defences that can track and engage golfballs at 40 kms the best missile would be the cheapest one.

And against opponents of lesser capability, still the cheapest one would be the best.

If I may interject with the savage ass-whooping inflicted on the former USS Schenectady by JDAM's dropped from B-52's...who needs anti-ship missiles?

Yea, that is against a dead ship! No defense systems at all. Hell yea it would more then enough damage which anyone could see.

I have been reading up and I seem from what I read I like the C-802 / YJ-2 / Ying Ji-802
CSS-C-8 / SACCADE
C-8xx / YJ-22
And here is the one artical which was good.

The Ying-Ji-802 land attack and anti-ship cruise missile [Western designation SACCADE], is an improved version of the C-801 which employs a small turbojet engine in place of the original solid rocket engine. The weight of the subsonic (0.9 Mach) Yingji-802 is reduced from 815 kilograms to 715 kilograms, but its range is increased from 42 kilometers to 120 kilometers. The 165 kg. (363 lb.) warhead is just as powerful as the earlier version. Since the missile has a small radar reflectivity and is only about five to seven meters above the sea surface when it attacks the target, and since its guidance equipment has strong anti-jamming capability, target ships have a very low success rate in intercepting the missile. The hit probability of the Yingji-802 is estimated to be as high as 98 percent. The Yingji-802 can be launched from airplanes, ships, submarines and land-based vehicles, and is considered along with the US "Harpoon" as among the best anti-ship missiles of the present-day world.
Following the 1991 Gulf War Iran imported the C-802 antiship cruise missile from China. China suspended exports in 1996 in response to comlaints by the the United States. In December 1996 Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, John Shalikashivili, warned Chinese Defense Minister General Chi Haotian that arms exports would increase destabilizing factors in the region. No international agreement bans transfers of anti-ship missiles, and the C-802 is not covered by the MTCR, which controls exports of ballistic and cruise missiles that can deliver 500 kg. warheads to 300 km. Iran expected to purchase 150 C-802 missiles from China but only received a half of them because of the arms suspension. By mid-1997 Iran reportedly possessed some 60 of the missiles deployed in coastal batteries on Qeshm Island, a strategic point on the eastern side of the Arabian peninsula. In 1997, General J.H. Binford Peay, Central Command commander, said that China transferred 20 patrol boats with 15 equipped with C-802 missiles (Washington Times, January 29, 1997). [Some reports claim that China may have transferred hundreds of C-802s, although these claims are not widely attested].

In early 2000 it was reported that North Korea and Iran were jointly developing an advanced version of the C-802 cruise missile. These missiles initially acquired by Iran were not equipped with advanced systems, and the missiles acquired by Iran were rather outdated. Iran turned to North Korea for missile system technology, and the two countries are jointly developing an upgraded version with improved accuracy. ["N. Korea, Iran Jointly Develop Missile: Report" Korea Times February 17, 2000]

The precise application of the YJ-8 designation remains somewhat obscure, as it is used with reference to both C-801 and C-802 missiles, and may be the overall designator for the weapon system that fires both types of missiles.

The YJ-22 is a land-attack cruise missile development of the anti-ship C-802 with a 400km range, and possible GPS/TM guidance currently said to be under development with an IOC expected after 2005.


If we also could add the SS-N-2A/B Termit ASM which has a war record.
(In the India-Pakistan 1971 war, P-15 (NATO name Styx) missiles were used by the Indian Navy during Operation Trident. 4 Styx missiles were fired, 2 each at PNS Muhafiz (minesweeper) and PNS Khyber (destroyer), both of which sank. Indian Navy reportedly fired 13 Styx missiles during the war, 12 of which hit, sinking several ships and damaging the petroleum storage facilities at Karachi.

And exocet has a ample amounts of kills.
3 ships in the falklands, and in the middle east, tankers and the Stark!

She may not be the last LST to take such a beating, Something tells me that USS Boulder's future may be very simular in time to come.

Originally Posted by Rumrunner

If I may interject with the savage ass-whooping inflicted on the former USS Schenectady by JDAM's dropped from B-52's...who needs anti-ship missiles?

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That musta been a 2000-lbs. GBU-31(V)3/B.