ASELSAN developing Torpedo Decoy/Jammer

TUSAS1 · 05-02-2008, 08:47 AM

Aselsan Submits Torpedo Decoy/Jammer Proposal

According to TD&AU sources, Aselsan (A defence company based in Turkey) has submitted a proposal to the Turkish Ministry of National Defence [MoND] R&D and Technology Department for a Submarine Acoustic Decoy System under a TüBiTAK R&DE project. Aselsan’s proposal is said to be valued at YTL45 Million and covers the design, development and delivery of 7oo expandable torpedo decoys/jammers for the Turkish Navy.

For use on Turkish submarines, the expandable torpedo decoy/jammer can be launched instantly, providing the vessel with omni-directional protection against attacks from incoming torpedoes.

Dubbed DAKA, and being developed in cooperation with two Turkish universities [METU and Bilkent] and the Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey [TüBiTAK], the torpedo decoy/jammer is expected to be retrofitted onto all the submarines in the service of Turkish Navy, as well as on the New Type Submarine to be selected in the coming months.

See Monch Yayýncýlýk - ASELSAN SUBMITS TORPEDO

Stan · 05-02-2008, 10:07 AM

interesting concepts

TUSAS1 · 05-03-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan

interesting concepts

That's what I thought as well Stan. Aselsan is an emerging actor in the defence industry I think. They are also in the process of developing a next generation heavy Torpedo.

http://www.ssm.gov.tr/TR/etkinlikler...LO%C4%9ELU.pdf

This PDF document is in Turkish (perhaps Ucar can interpret for us) however, it has alot of detailed information from the Turkish Government about its Naval platform projects. Some interesting info.

TUSAS1 · 05-04-2008, 00:40 AM

Turkish Defence Industries has also been working on a National Heavy Torpedo (Picture below from the program)....It is envisaged that it should enter the serial production stages in 2 to 5 years.

Public Enemy · 05-04-2008, 11:54 AM

The Turkish naval power is getting more formidable by the year.
Yonca Onuk shipyard in inventory:

Yonca Onuk in foreign navies:

The ships that are being built and will enter the inventory soon (in less than 5 years):

The ships which are in selection procedure, to be added to the inventory in the near future (in less than 10 years):

Moship = Mothership/submarine rescue
Ratship = Rescue and Towing Ship
ACMB = Amphibious High speed special operations ship
LST = Amphibious Tank ship landing boat

The ships planned for future acquisition:

TF2000 = Airdefence frigate
DIMDG= Fleet Replenishment Ship
MILGEM = National Corvette
YOG = School ship
LPD = Landing platform dock

• Adding to this the TF100 (extended Milgem Corvette / light frigate) airdefence corvette is in design phase.
• New generation AIP submarine is in the tender process (& additional Turkish subsystems in design phase)

THXs to Nutuk, for the information and pics.

TUSAS1 · 05-04-2008, 19:00 PM

Turkey is achieving so much in so little time, thanks to the changes to the Turkish laws allowing civilian companies to develop defence technology. Something which was illegal 6 years ago.

I can't actually wait untill 2014, when nearly all the 68 Surface Combatant Ships will enter service....the Turkish Navy will then be truly be a blue water force (Especially, with the addition of the 18,000 ton Attack Helicopter carrier).

The most important platforms I believe in the modernization process are the TF-2000 light destroyers and the 6 AIP Submarines (similar to Dolphin class in Israeli Navy).

The 150m, 4500 ton TF-2000 will also make up the backbone of our offensive capabilities and it will also add totally new powers to the Turkish Navy.

The 6 AIP subs will also be very capable. They are to be co-produced with the same German firm which has "donated" the Dolphin Class Subs to the Israeli Navy. They will also incorporate the sub-launched Popeye Turbo Land Attack missiles (Currently, being co-produced with the other Popeye missile family by a Turkish company which is a joint-venture with Rafael of Israel). Turkish officials state that the Turkish version of the Popeye Turbo will have a range of 150km, due to Turkey's Treaty agreement restraints. However, Israeli officials state that this is not true and that the actual range will remain 350 km.

Quote:

Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon"s one-day visit to Ankara Wednesday capped long and fruitful negotiations leading to a breakthrough strategic partnership between Israel and Turkey. Given Turkish geography and national religion, prime minister Bulent Ecevit could do no less than criticize his guest for his handling of the Palestinian question. But Sharon was given ample opportunity to rebut the criticism, and so level the small bump in the road to this epic relationship with the least possible pain to both sides.

DEBKAfile's military and Turkish sources note that it took far less time for the two leaders to dispose of the really cardinal issues and sign a series of pacts covering the co-production of Israel's anti-missile Arrow missile, the sale of Israeli Popeye and Popeye Turbo cruise missiles, and the continued deployment of Israeli air, naval and ground forces in Turkish bases, including new ones already under construction, according to DEBKAfile's sources, under the supervision of US Air Force engineers.

After a successful joint US-Turkish-Israel air exercise this summer over southern Turkey, the Israeli and Turkish leaders were able to move forward swiftly to coordinate Israeli and Turkish air defenses under a joint command for guarding the skies over the eastern Mediterranean, northern Iraq and western Iran.

What this adds up to is a series of sweeping military accords which for the first time in Israeli's history permits the IDF to operate in the Middle East out of bases located in a Moslem country against Arab aggressors, be they Syrian, Iraqi or Iranian.
See Israel - Turkey-Israel: What "strained relations"?

Quote:

Turkey initially bought 50 Popeye I missiles for its fleet of F-4s being upgraded at Israel Aircraft Industries. At least 40 Popeye I missiles were delivered to Turkey in 1997 with a second batch of 60 shipped in 1998. In May 1997 Israel and Turkey agreed to jointly produce the Popeye II air-to-ground missile in a deal initially worth about $100 million dollars. The new deal involved a consortium to be established between two Turkish firms and Rafael to jointly produce the Popeye II, a smaller missile with more advanced technology. The Popeye II, also known as the Have Lite, is designed for deployment on fighter aircraft and has a range of 150 kilometers. The Popeye II missiles were expected to be delivered beginning in 2000. The overall Popeye-I and Popeye-II missiles program with Turkey was valued at some $500 million.
AGM-142 Raptor / Have Nap / Popeye - Smart Weapons

See also:

Israel, Turkey to make 'Popeye' missiles - Jerusalem Post | Encyclopedia.com

JINSA Online -- Turkey to Buy and Co-Produce Israeli Popeye Missiles

Israel to begin delivering Popeye missiles to Turkey - Jerusalem Post - HighBeam Research

Ankara requests more Popeye missiles from Tel Aviv France hopeful on Turkey's candidacy chance Ibrahim Sahin visited Israeli weapons companies a week - Turkish Daily News Dec 04, 1997

"Triple Alliance": The US, Turkey, Israel and the War on Lebanon

Signing ceremony
Oh I love this picture so much...It shows that Islam is not the enemy of Israel, but rather it is Arab Nationalism.

TUSAS1 · 05-04-2008, 23:52 PM

SSM officials state that the prefered LPD for the Turkish Navy is the Dokto Class of Korea. Turkish officials state that due to the strategic agreement between South Korea which includes co-production of Towed Howitzers, Trainer Aircraft, MBT Armour etc, it is most likely that Turkey will opt for the Dokto Class.

The other added advantages is that the Dokto class can operate the F-35B if Turkey decides to accept the option of adding a ski jump board module 15-17 meters in length to the main deck which is already coated with a special heat resistant paint. This will also give a good indication as to why Turkey is still actively involved in the F-35B development phase rather than only the F-35c. There is also talk that Turkey intends to purchase 20 F-35B's.

The other contender is Italian company Fincantieri's offer. Like the dokto class, Italy's offer also is a semi-carrier type. A decision will be made at the upcoming SSIK meeting.

Public Enemy · 05-05-2008, 01:27 AM

Dokdo class, would be preferable over the Italian lpd

05-02-2008, 08:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
TUSAS1 Regular Join Date: 04-19-08 Posts: 45 Country:	ASELSAN developing Torpedo Decoy/Jammer Aselsan Submits Torpedo Decoy/Jammer Proposal According to TD&AU sources, Aselsan (A defence company based in Turkey) has submitted a proposal to the Turkish Ministry of National Defence [MoND] R&D and Technology Department for a Submarine Acoustic Decoy System under a TüBiTAK R&DE project. Aselsan’s proposal is said to be valued at YTL45 Million and covers the design, development and delivery of 7oo expandable torpedo decoys/jammers for the Turkish Navy. For use on Turkish submarines, the expandable torpedo decoy/jammer can be launched instantly, providing the vessel with omni-directional protection against attacks from incoming torpedoes. Dubbed DAKA, and being developed in cooperation with two Turkish universities [METU and Bilkent] and the Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey [TüBiTAK], the torpedo decoy/jammer is expected to be retrofitted onto all the submarines in the service of Turkish Navy, as well as on the New Type Submarine to be selected in the coming months. See Monch Yayýncýlýk - ASELSAN SUBMITS TORPEDO

05-02-2008, 10:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
Stan Contributor Join Date: 07-11-06 Posts: 300 Country:	interesting concepts __________________ Loving good discussion since 1983

05-04-2008, 11:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
Public Enemy New Member Join Date: 03-06-08 Posts: 18	The Turkish naval power is getting more formidable by the year. The Turkish naval power is getting more formidable by the year. Yonca Onuk shipyard in inventory: Yonca Onuk in foreign navies: The ships that are being built and will enter the inventory soon (in less than 5 years): The ships which are in selection procedure, to be added to the inventory in the near future (in less than 10 years): Moship = Mothership/submarine rescue Ratship = Rescue and Towing Ship ACMB = Amphibious High speed special operations ship LST = Amphibious Tank ship landing boat The ships planned for future acquisition: TF2000 = Airdefence frigate DIMDG= Fleet Replenishment Ship MILGEM = National Corvette YOG = School ship LPD = Landing platform dock • Adding to this the TF100 (extended Milgem Corvette / light frigate) airdefence corvette is in design phase. • New generation AIP submarine is in the tender process (& additional Turkish subsystems in design phase) THXs to Nutuk, for the information and pics.

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05-04-2008, 00:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
TUSAS1 Regular Join Date: 04-19-08 Posts: 45 Country:	Turkish Defence Industries has also been working on a National Heavy Torpedo (Picture below from the program)....It is envisaged that it should enter the serial production stages in 2 to 5 years.

05-04-2008, 23:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
TUSAS1 Regular Join Date: 04-19-08 Posts: 45 Country:	SSM officials state that the prefered LPD for the Turkish Navy is the Dokto Class of Korea. Turkish officials state that due to the strategic agreement between South Korea which includes co-production of Towed Howitzers, Trainer Aircraft, MBT Armour etc, it is most likely that Turkey will opt for the Dokto Class. The other added advantages is that the Dokto class can operate the F-35B if Turkey decides to accept the option of adding a ski jump board module 15-17 meters in length to the main deck which is already coated with a special heat resistant paint. This will also give a good indication as to why Turkey is still actively involved in the F-35B development phase rather than only the F-35c. There is also talk that Turkey intends to purchase 20 F-35B's. The other contender is Italian company Fincantieri's offer. Like the dokto class, Italy's offer also is a semi-carrier type. A decision will be made at the upcoming SSIK meeting.

05-05-2008, 01:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
Public Enemy New Member Join Date: 03-06-08 Posts: 18	Dokdo class, would be preferable over the Italian lpd

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