U.S.S. William Jefferson Clinton

Ctom3 · 03-28-2008, 12:22 PM

The latest addition to Carter class aircraft carriers.

Dreadnought · 03-28-2008, 15:53 PM

Lord, I hope we never name a ship after that clown.

jeffpayne56 · 03-28-2008, 16:53 PM

any one smoking a cigar

SteaminDemon · 03-29-2008, 22:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Lord, I hope we never name a ship after that clown.

With you on that.

Nice post Ctom

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I wouldn't even dishonor a barge by naming it the USS Clinton. If anyone is to name a ship after Clinton, maybe China should.

zraver · 03-29-2008, 23:32 PM

in his defense, he at lest got the navy 9or dd not block it) the F-14D. Bush killed a great warbird.

Sledhead · 03-30-2008, 13:30 PM

Great pic.
I think it is a fitting tribute.

JA Boomer · 03-31-2008, 01:47 AM

Name aside...I'd be tempted to take a single F-14 Tomcat on a barge into combat any day over a Nimitz with 48 Bugs and Super Bugs

mweber24 · 04-01-2008, 15:00 PM

You can have all the F-14s you want, it will break your national budget fast, and leave air superiority to the nation that has a more reliable, cheaper to opperate fighter. The F-18 has only one real weakness compared to the F-14, range, and that was largely made up by the F-18E/F, with the bonus of MUCH higher operational availability. Bottom line, on non-stealth tactical fighter is about equal to another non-stealth tactical fighter when they both have advanced air search radars and AMRAAMs. And the F-18 can carry a much greater variety of ordnance. The F-14D was a big improvement over the F-14A/B, which was a great air superiority fighter in the 1970's and 80's, but is long since obsolete in the 21st century.

JA Boomer · 04-01-2008, 15:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JA Boomer

Name aside...I'd be tempted to take a single F-14 Tomcat on a barge into combat any day over a Nimitz with 48 Bugs and Super Bugs

Quote:

Originally Posted by mweber24

You can have all the F-14s you want, it will break your national budget fast, and leave air superiority to the nation that has a more reliable, cheaper to opperate fighter.

Wow, first of all...notice the nature of the post, and then the nature of the thread. It was a JOKE so take it easy ok.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mweber24

The F-18 has only one real weakness compared to the F-14, range, and that was largely made up by the F-18E/F, with the bonus of MUCH higher operational availability.

Second of all, I disagree with you. Range, Payload, Speed, Radar Capability...and on. The F-14 Tomcat had a number of areas where it bested the F/A-18. They were designed to fill different roles, so we can expect this. And yes, the Rhino is an improvement over the Hornet, but still does not match the Tomcat in some areas, and yes, it beats the Tomcat in others.

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Originally Posted by mweber24

Bottom line, on non-stealth tactical fighter is about equal to another non-stealth tactical fighter when they both have advanced air search radars and AMRAAMs.

Well that cannot be true, how else could we have all the 'vs' threads here on WAB

Alyeska · 04-04-2008, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ctom3

The latest addition to Carter class aircraft carriers.

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Quick! Someone call the Iranians! Tell them we have a target they can use for nuclear testing...and if they use it, noone will complain about them having nukes.....for awhile

First though, please do liberate the F-14....we must avoid collateral damage afterall

03-28-2008, 15:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dreadnought *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-12-05 Posts: 5,330 Country:	Lord, I hope we never name a ship after that clown. __________________ Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

03-28-2008, 16:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
jeffpayne56 *Military Professional* Join Date: 12-03-06 Location: Deal, Kent Posts: 117 Country:	any one smoking a cigar __________________ Can the last person to leave the UK please turn out the lights cheers Jeff

04-01-2008, 15:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
mweber24 *Military Professional* Join Date: 03-18-08 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 66 Country:	You can have all the F-14s you want, it will break your national budget fast, and leave air superiority to the nation that has a more reliable, cheaper to opperate fighter. The F-18 has only one real weakness compared to the F-14, range, and that was largely made up by the F-18E/F, with the bonus of MUCH higher operational availability. Bottom line, on non-stealth tactical fighter is about equal to another non-stealth tactical fighter when they both have advanced air search radars and AMRAAMs. And the F-18 can carry a much greater variety of ordnance. The F-14D was a big improvement over the F-14A/B, which was a great air superiority fighter in the 1970's and 80's, but is long since obsolete in the 21st century. __________________ The SWO

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zraver Contrary by nature. *Military Professional* Join Date: 10-22-06 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,532 Country:	in his defense, he at lest got the navy 9or dd not block it) the F-14D. Bush killed a great warbird.

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Sledhead New Member Join Date: 03-28-08 Location: Toronto Posts: 10 Country:	Great pic. I think it is a fitting tribute.

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