Women in the Silent Service?

Silent Hunter · 09-13-2007, 04:33 AM

Can women serve aboard USN submarines?

-{SpoonmaN}- · 09-13-2007, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Hunter

Can women serve aboard USN submarines?

Pretty sure they can't. As I understand it they're pretty common on board the Collins Class boats here. That is, when there are enough people available of any gender to run them.

aberdeenlad · 09-13-2007, 06:33 AM

Pretty sure they can't for the same reasons given for the Royal Navy SSNs.

VarSity · 09-13-2007, 06:40 AM

What is the reason given? Seems stupid that woman gant be allowed on these.

aberdeenlad · 09-13-2007, 07:01 AM

Q. Why are women not permitted to serve on submarines?

Service in submarines is closed to women because of medical concerns for the safety of the foetus and hence its mother. This restriction is purely medical and does not relate to combat effectiveness. The potential risks to the foetus do not arise from hazardous radiation, but from contaminants in the submarine's atmosphere.

The Institute of Naval Medicine (INM) reviewed the exclusion in 1999, as did subsequently both the Defence Scientific Advisory Council and Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists. Their outcomes supported the conclusions of the INM report, that the exclusion was justified.

Taken from the Royal Navy website. Royal Navy

VarSity · 09-13-2007, 07:16 AM

So if a woman gets pregnant, not allowed on a sub. big whoop.

Why dont they just give them a jab in the bum so they cant get pregnant. Lasts 6 months+ and problem solved.

I see their point, but a blanket ban seems a bit much.

Dreadnought · 09-13-2007, 10:16 AM

I believe the point is still being debated in the USN at this point. However I have read articles as far back as 2001 where women could/would possible serve aboard Canadian subs.

FYI One of the USN's newest guided missle destroyers (name left out) CO's just happens to be a woman and a very repectable one at that. Also the SWO is also of the female gender.

dave lukins · 09-13-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by VarSity

Why dont they just give them a jab in the bum

I see their point

no pun intended

tankie · 09-13-2007, 10:26 AM

I dont think i have ever met a woman who can stay silent long enough

VarSity · 09-13-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dave lukins

no pun intended

HEHEHHE

I would think they would want women around. Gives the blokes something to look at. Its not like they can look out the window is it!

tankie · 09-13-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by VarSity

HEHEHHE

I would think they would want women around. Gives the blokes something to look at. Its not like they can look out the window is it!

Yes they come in handy for cooking and cleaning and and and , other things

**astralis** · 09-13-2007, 10:46 AM

tankie,

Quote:

other things

it ain't gonna be the silent service anymore?

tankie · 09-13-2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by astralis

tankie,

it ain't gonna be the silent service anymore?

Levsha · 09-13-2007, 15:34 PM

I believe the Norwegian Navy has a female commander in charge of one of its submarines at the moment, or did so until recently.

EDIT: Just found these links:

Solveig Krey, Norway's sentry under the sea Scandinavian Review - Find Articles

Solveig Krey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

aberdeenlad · 09-13-2007, 16:26 PM

I think the Royal Navy's decision refers only to nuclear boats as that is all we have.

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aberdeenlad New Member Join Date: 07-06-07 Location: Aberdeenshire, Great Britain Posts: 5 Country:	Pretty sure they can't for the same reasons given for the Royal Navy SSNs.

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VarSity Contributor Join Date: 06-11-07 Location: Leicester Posts: 465 Country:	What is the reason given? Seems stupid that woman gant be allowed on these.

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aberdeenlad New Member Join Date: 07-06-07 Location: Aberdeenshire, Great Britain Posts: 5 Country:	Q. Why are women not permitted to serve on submarines? Service in submarines is closed to women because of medical concerns for the safety of the foetus and hence its mother. This restriction is purely medical and does not relate to combat effectiveness. The potential risks to the foetus do not arise from hazardous radiation, but from contaminants in the submarine's atmosphere. The Institute of Naval Medicine (INM) reviewed the exclusion in 1999, as did subsequently both the Defence Scientific Advisory Council and Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists. Their outcomes supported the conclusions of the INM report, that the exclusion was justified. Taken from the Royal Navy website. Royal Navy

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VarSity Contributor Join Date: 06-11-07 Location: Leicester Posts: 465 Country:	So if a woman gets pregnant, not allowed on a sub. big whoop. Why dont they just give them a jab in the bum so they cant get pregnant. Lasts 6 months+ and problem solved. I see their point, but a blanket ban seems a bit much.

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aberdeenlad New Member Join Date: 07-06-07 Location: Aberdeenshire, Great Britain Posts: 5 Country:	I think the Royal Navy's decision refers only to nuclear boats as that is all we have.

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