Women in the Silent Service? - Page 2

BenRoethig · 09-17-2007, 14:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VarSity

So if a woman gets pregnant, not allowed on a sub. big whoop.

Why dont they just give them a jab in the bum so they cant get pregnant. Lasts 6 months+ and problem solved.

I see their point, but a blanket ban seems a bit much.

There are also no space for separate quarters

Shipwreck · 09-17-2007, 16:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tankie

I dont think i have ever met a woman who can stay silent long enough

gunnut · 09-17-2007, 17:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tankie

I dont think i have ever met a woman who can stay silent long enough

Oooh ouch.

**TopHatter** · 09-17-2007, 19:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BenRoethig

There are also no space for separate quarters

According to one sub skipper, they could probably make it happen on an Ohio-class SSBN if they really wanted to. They've got a bit more space to work with.

But women a 688-class SSN? Not a chance in hell unless they - and their male sailor comrades - don't mind having zero privacy. Which of course doesn't have a chance in hell of happening.

avon1944 · 09-21-2007, 04:11 AM

The US Navy has a couple of objections to mixed sex crews. One is privacy there is virtually no privacy on a "688" boat, especially when it leaves port. There are times when the crews have to "hot bunk!" You just got off duty and you wake someone who is going on duty, climbing into the bunk you share, thus the bunk is warm when you get into it!
Another is America's subs go on some of the longest patrols of any sub service. All of the patrol areas of interest are thousands of miles away. So on a ninety day patrol to spend seven to ten days going and returning means the sub spends only between seventy to seventy-six days on patrol. The Navy does not want to mess with the problem of men and women being confined together in such close proximity for long periods of time.

Yes, some European navies have both men and women aboard but, we are talking about three week cruises and, when they leave port, they are not crammed with supplies in hallways like America's SSN's. This packing of supplies makes the privacy issue worst.

Adrian

JMH · 09-23-2007, 17:56 PM

Pregnancy at sea on a submarine, what a disaster. I have worked with pregnant women oboard surface ships and they where quite miserable especially when climbing the ladders everyday, also, they could not do anywork that involved lifting anything.

The only way women should be allowed at sea onboard Submarines is to have all women crews for submarines, this should limit the pregancy problem and drive down retention to such low levels that they Navy would save more money by getting rid of male sailors.

09-21-2007, 04:11 AM	#20 (permalink)
avon1944 Patron Join Date: 04-26-05 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 266	RE: Women in the Silent Service? The US Navy has a couple of objections to mixed sex crews. One is privacy there is virtually no privacy on a "688" boat, especially when it leaves port. There are times when the crews have to "hot bunk!" You just got off duty and you wake someone who is going on duty, climbing into the bunk you share, thus the bunk is warm when you get into it! Another is America's subs go on some of the longest patrols of any sub service. All of the patrol areas of interest are thousands of miles away. So on a ninety day patrol to spend seven to ten days going and returning means the sub spends only between seventy to seventy-six days on patrol. The Navy does not want to mess with the problem of men and women being confined together in such close proximity for long periods of time. Yes, some European navies have both men and women aboard but, we are talking about three week cruises and, when they leave port, they are not crammed with supplies in hallways like America's SSN's. This packing of supplies makes the privacy issue worst. Adrian

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JMH Regular Join Date: 01-24-07 Location: Alexandria and Everett and various other locations. Posts: 116 Country:	Pregnancy at sea on a submarine, what a disaster. I have worked with pregnant women oboard surface ships and they where quite miserable especially when climbing the ladders everyday, also, they could not do anywork that involved lifting anything. The only way women should be allowed at sea onboard Submarines is to have all women crews for submarines, this should limit the pregancy problem and drive down retention to such low levels that they Navy would save more money by getting rid of male sailors.

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