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Here's the question though. Is it worth the tonnage to put anything other than short range defensive arms on a carrier? A carrier is by definition a transport. It transports and launches offensive cargo. Why put on it long range defensive and even offensive arms? It would be more economical to carry more offensive cargo. I think that's a reason why the new Japanese DDH is a full blown carrier and all the other small carriers/sea control ships carry only short range defensive arms.
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Of course like what Silent Hunter said, it could be entirely a political thing to get the ship in and out of the Black Sea. |
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Historically Russia(USSR)has concentrated on developing ship-launched Rockets/Missiles as their primary offensive naval anti-ship weapons.
Unlike the Western practice of using aircraft as the the primary offensive weapon. Exocet, Otomat and Harpoon Western missiles are much smaller and have far less range. The Kiev class was a logical evolution in Russian(USSR) naval warfare capabilities. It basuically combined the capabilities of the Moskva class and its never built "companion" an anti-ship missile carrying cruiser in addition to a VTOL aircraft capability. It is thougt they were designed to deny access to ballistic missile operating areas north of the GIUK gap whether they be submarines, surface ships or aircraft. But the seond of the class was sent to the Pacific after completion. And the first of class Kiev supported amphibious forces for much of her early career in the MED. This class was formerly designated by the Russians as "large ASW ships" and later as "air capable ships". The fixed-wing aviation component of the Kiev class gave it limited air cover capability. However those aircraft were "observed' more often carrying "ground-attack weapons". The lack of either an "air intercept" or "surface search" radar greatly handicapped this aircraft for either the aircraft interceptor or anti-ship missions. Even the Kunetsovs(a greatly modified version of the preceding Kiev class:"taking nearly 10 years to construct") primary offensive weapon is the SS-N-19 "Shipwreck" anti-ship missile with a range of 300nm miles. The Kunetsov design was "intended primarily to carry interceptor fixed-wing aircrfat with no ground or ship-attack role." The angled deck on the Kiev class was incorporated basically to avoid confliction with the obstruction presented forward by the SS-N-12 "sandbox" missile launchers rather than facilitate rolling TO/landings of aircraft as in Western practice as the YAK 36/38 was a VTOL aircraft. Although to be sure in the USN and other navies this also lead to the avoidance of the obstruction presented forward by aircraft deck parks. In addition it also lead to a rather relatively easy transition for conventional T0/landing aircraft operations aboard the follow-on Kunetsov design. The YAK 36/38 Freehand/Forger indeed was very limited: IT " Could not perform rolling take-off, limiting load potential, and seldom operated out of line-of-sight of their mother ships." It had no radar of any type. Sources: Conways Combat Fleets |
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