Chinese Carriers - Page 5

Feanor · 07-29-2007, 20:19 PM

I don't about aircraft carriers but there seems to be anew submarine base planned in Kamchatka.

Russia to build up-to-date base for nuclear submarines equipped with superpowerful Bulava missiles - Pravda.Ru

-{SpoonmaN}- · 07-29-2007, 20:31 PM

Well I guess it's not out of the question for Japan to go Carrier, they can justify it as defensive based on it's complement, if it only carries choppers and interceptors then they can claim it's purely for defending Japanese shipping. Since they have a massive fleet of escorts, all they need is underway replenishment and they're set I suppose. Korea doesn't have to worry about such pretencions and will, in my opinion, almost certainly go for a Carrier fleet a la the current UK one. Australia is very unlikely to scrape the money together to build a proper aviation ship but the LHDs we're building now are supposedly capable of carrying a few planes. I would have rathered buying Wasps and cramming more automation onto the ships to save on crew requirements but then local industries wouldn't have gotten their pork (I swear it's their fault everything costs twice as much as it should).
My opinion anyway.

Galrahn · 07-29-2007, 22:54 PM

Kanwa is always a suspect source though, I almost wish I didn't mention that article.

Although, I thought it a very interesting use of the Varyag as a test platform for installing and testing equipment purchased for a new Carrier design. For a nation developing something as complicated as an aircraft carrier, it certainly helps to have something the size of the Varyag to adapt trial and error with, that way you don't screw up your design when you go to build a new one.

In that regard it would be a novel use of the carrier.

Stan · 07-30-2007, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by -{SpoonmaN}-

Well I guess it's not out of the question for Japan to go Carrier, they can justify it as defensive based on it's complement, if it only carries choppers and interceptors then they can claim it's purely for defending Japanese shipping. Since they have a massive fleet of escorts, all they need is underway replenishment and they're set I suppose. Korea doesn't have to worry about such pretencions and will, in my opinion, almost certainly go for a Carrier fleet a la the current UK one. Australia is very unlikely to scrape the money together to build a proper aviation ship but the LHDs we're building now are supposedly capable of carrying a few planes. I would have rathered buying Wasps and cramming more automation onto the ships to save on crew requirements but then local industries wouldn't have gotten their pork (I swear it's their fault everything costs twice as much as it should).
My opinion anyway.

well spoonman if you guys would sort out a nice imagration package the rest of the UK will move over and bring our new CVFs with us.

Get started on the a palace as well, she always follows us about.

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Galrahn *Defense Professional* Join Date: 04-14-06 Posts: 405	Kanwa is always a suspect source though, I almost wish I didn't mention that article. Although, I thought it a very interesting use of the Varyag as a test platform for installing and testing equipment purchased for a new Carrier design. For a nation developing something as complicated as an aircraft carrier, it certainly helps to have something the size of the Varyag to adapt trial and error with, that way you don't screw up your design when you go to build a new one. In that regard it would be a novel use of the carrier.

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