New Names - Page 4

gunnut · 10-27-2007, 17:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dectilion

i totally fail to see any connection between Bush and Churchill. Churchill was an inspiring hero, people loved him, and Bush is a hated fool.

People loved Churchill enough to run him out of the office right after the war.

Let history be the judge of Bush. I have a suspicion that he will receive a much higher mark 50 years from now.

Gun Grape · 10-28-2007, 21:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TopHatter

All CVN's after the Gerald R. Ford are unnamed and will remain that way, probably for the next 5-6 years, at the very least.

They're assigned hull numbers once they're authorized but they usually don't give a name to a ship until they're close to being ready for the start of construction.

So, whoever is SECNAV a few years from now will name CVN-79.

And remember that GW Bush and Ford were both Navy Men.

That cannot be said about Jr or Clinton.

maximusslade · 05-27-2008, 22:50 PM

Personally, I have always felt that the U.S. and U.K. have always had the absolute best capital ship names. The use of state names has alwasys seemed powerful to me. The British have a far broader range of names to choose from but names such as Furious, Indominable, Invincible, King George, etc. do sound very powerful. Despite the fact that I served on a submarine named after a state, I still think it inappropriate for subs to be named for states or cities. I know many submariners that regret that they cannot serve on submarines whose namesakes have such illustrious war records, i.e. Skate, Lionfish, Nautilus, Stingray, so on and so forth.

Silent Hunter · 05-28-2008, 07:46 AM

I'd like to see a Russian ship re-use the name "Krepost"- meaning Fortress.

Tarek Morgen · 05-28-2008, 07:54 AM

How about an HMS Doctor or Tardis?

Dreadnought · 05-28-2008, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by maximusslade

Personally, I have always felt that the U.S. and U.K. have always had the absolute best capital ship names. The use of state names has alwasys seemed powerful to me. The British have a far broader range of names to choose from but names such as Furious, Indominable, Invincible, King George, etc. do sound very powerful. Despite the fact that I served on a submarine named after a state, I still think it inappropriate for subs to be named for states or cities. I know many submariners that regret that they cannot serve on submarines whose namesakes have such illustrious war records, i.e. Skate, Lionfish, Nautilus, Stingray, so on and so forth.

Kind of a clash I agree Max one of a kind names.

Dreadnought · 05-28-2008, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by maximusslade

Personally, I have always felt that the U.S. and U.K. have always had the absolute best capital ship names. The use of state names has alwasys seemed powerful to me. The British have a far broader range of names to choose from but names such as Furious, Indominable, Invincible, King George, etc. do sound very powerful. Despite the fact that I served on a submarine named after a state, I still think it inappropriate for subs to be named for states or cities. I know many submariners that regret that they cannot serve on submarines whose namesakes have such illustrious war records, i.e. Skate, Lionfish, Nautilus, Stingray, so on and so forth.

Darter,Dace and many more.

Always loved the "Stingray" mural on the bow in the movie Down Periscope.

Now thats a true Navy sub mural.

ArmchairGeneral · 05-28-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Hunter

Any idea what CVN-79 and -80 are going to be called? I guess Bill Clinton will get -79...

Um, HECK NO.

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Originally Posted by Dectilion

i totally fail to see any connection between Bush and Churchill. Churchill was an inspiring hero, people loved him, and Bush is a hated fool.

Do you remember Bush's speech right after 9/11? Inspiring, made people love him.

And as several others have pointed out, there were several periods when Churchill was about as popular as mud, and he made some impressively foolish decisions. But he was right about the big ones, so we like him.

Dreadnought · 05-28-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmchairGeneral

Um, HECK NO.

Do you remember Bush's speech right after 9/11? Inspiring, made people love him.

And as several others have pointed out, there were several periods when Churchill was about as popular as mud, and he made some impressively foolish decisions. But he was right about the big ones, so we like him.

Clinton? That would be a slap in the face to anybody who has served. He NEVER served except to criticise our country from afar during the war years. I dont see what people see in that guy! To me well nevermind.

Jr dont need any ship named after him. His fathers legacy (CV) will last longer then both of them will remain alive.

Churchill has a USN DDG named after him. I visited it and posted pics of her here in Philly.

gunnut · 05-28-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarek Morgen

How about an HMS Doctor or Tardis?

HMS The Doctor

Doctor Who?

No. Just "The Doctor."

Dreadnought · 05-28-2008, 13:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnut

HMS The Doctor

Doctor Who?

No. Just "The Doctor."

Is the insignia going to be a telephone booth?

Tarek Morgen · 05-28-2008, 13:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnut

HMS The Doctor

Doctor Who?

No. Just "The Doctor."

downside would be that it would not be armed..well except for the screwdrivers.

gunnut · 05-28-2008, 14:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarek Morgen

downside would be that it would not be armed..well except for the screwdrivers.

Good name for a hospital or auxilury ship.

On the other hand, we could name a combatant "The Master."

Tarek Morgen · 05-28-2008, 15:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnut

Good name for a hospital or auxilury ship.

On the other hand, we could name a combatant "The Master."

True, but the Master always loses, so it might be seen as bad luck...on the other hand he always comes back to fight again.

But still the names of RN are much better than those we get. We usually simply use names of or states, cities, or simetimes a famous person. Our subs dont even get names at all...

dundonrl · 06-13-2008, 02:33 AM

well.. not all of the last 4 are in the LHD class ships..

Ships of the LHD 1 multipurpose amphibious assault ship program are named for famous U.S. Navy warships which themselves were not named for battles.

Wasp LHD1
Essex LHD2
Kearsarge LHD3
Boxer LHD4
Battan LHD5
Bonhomme Richard LHD6
Iwo Jima LHD7
Makin Island LHD8

05-27-2008, 22:50 PM	#48 (permalink)
maximusslade Patron Join Date: 04-16-08 Posts: 240 Country:	Personally, I have always felt that the U.S. and U.K. have always had the absolute best capital ship names. The use of state names has alwasys seemed powerful to me. The British have a far broader range of names to choose from but names such as Furious, Indominable, Invincible, King George, etc. do sound very powerful. Despite the fact that I served on a submarine named after a state, I still think it inappropriate for subs to be named for states or cities. I know many submariners that regret that they cannot serve on submarines whose namesakes have such illustrious war records, i.e. Skate, Lionfish, Nautilus, Stingray, so on and so forth. __________________ Hit Hard, Hit Fast, Hit Often...

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Tarek Morgen *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 02-08-07 Location: Kassel Posts: 904 Country:	How about an HMS Doctor or Tardis? __________________ uh I might be wrong

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dundonrl *Military Professional* Join Date: 03-23-07 Posts: 133	well.. not all of the last 4 are in the LHD class ships.. Ships of the LHD 1 multipurpose amphibious assault ship program are named for famous U.S. Navy warships which themselves were not named for battles. Wasp LHD1 Essex LHD2 Kearsarge LHD3 Boxer LHD4 Battan LHD5 Bonhomme Richard LHD6 Iwo Jima LHD7 Makin Island LHD8

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